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Thirteen gets lucky with mixed resultsUm, hi House. Yeah, thing is, I want my 20 seconds back. Yes, those 20 seconds. Yes, I timed them. Those 20 seconds of good stuff. Those 20 seconds you cut from the smoking hot promos compared to what actually aired on American television. The 20 seconds that include the removal of tops, unbuttoning of pants, kissing of stomachs and breathless, carnal uttering of something like “come here.” Don't be coy with me. You know you cut them. They looked like this:
Last night's episode of House, both ironically and un-ironically titled “Lucky Thirteen,” featured the first real physical evidence of Thirteen's (Olivia Wilde) bisexuality as she slept with and then had to treat a female one-night stand. The woman was played by Angela Gots, who many will remember from The L Word as Cammie the “gay for pay” actress whom portrayed Shane/Shaun in the meta headache known as Lez Girls.
When I first saw the promos, I commented that it “may be the single hottest, longest, screen meltingest girl-on-girl action to ever be aired in the primetime broadcast TV 'family hour' of 8 p.m.” And it would have been, had the whole thing aired. What did air, while still hot, was definitely watered down. Which leads to the somewhat rhetorical question: Why preview a longer, hotter clip than what eventually got broadcast? The answer, duh, ratings. Bummer.
The rest of the episode — while interspersed with some nice interaction between Olivia and Angela — was largely a bummer, too. Since her Huntington's diagnosis, Thirteen has learned that she may have even less time than she thought. So instead of trying to stay healthy, she is partying and picking up women at bars. When Foreman confronts her on this her reasoning is simple. Thirteen: I'm having fun, cramming as much life into my life as I can. Now, I have to take issue with the presentation of Thirteen's bisexuality as part of her supposed downward spiral. All of her one-night stands are with women and she admits to not being into “repeat performances.” She looks pale and bleary-eyed throughout and administers IV fluids on herself after a particularly wild night. She even gets fired (temporarily) by House for her hard-partying ways.
Look, we have so few examples of gay women in sexual relationships on TV in the first place, must this one be shown as a symptom of her reckless behavior? Later in the episode, Thirteen does seem to make a genuine connection with Spencer. (Say, is that TV writers' new go-to name now for gay women?) But that connection is mostly born out of the fact that Thirteen thinks that Spencer also has a terminal diagnosis. Once it turns out Spencer isn't dying, Thirteen again admits to feeling alone.
Adding to my disappointment in the episode were earlier spoilers that Thirteen and Foreman might become more than just colleagues. The potential “Forteen” coupling was hinted at broadly throughout the episode as Foreman showed concern in her behavior and she confided in him.
Intentional or not, this sets up the dynamic that Thirteen is “unhealthy” and “unstable” when she is with women and “healthy” and “balanced” when she is with men. And then there is the closing shot of a glassy-eyed Thirteen who is — surprise, surprise — with yet another female conquest. Hey, House, a message that sex with women is bad for your health is totally not what the doctor ordered.
Still, the episode did give me the newest slogan for my burgeoning novelty T-shirt business: “Another life saved by girl-on-girl action.” So, what did you think? Did you like Thirteen and Spencer together? Are you interested in Forteen? And, seriously, where the hell did those 20 seconds go? Submitted by on October 22, 2008 - 10:00am. |
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Where did those 20 seconds
Where did those 20 seconds go? I was uber excited to watch it and then BAM! It was over. I did not like how they portrayed Thirteen as being in a downward spiral because she is sleeping with women. Once again another television lezzie storyline down the tubes. When will public tv start showing happy-ending les r-ships???
I would rather see her be with another woman, but they probably will put her and foreman together.
Dream little darling, dream
On recklessness
Hm...true
I hope you're right
Dream little darling, dream
I kinda thought the same
I kinda thought the same thing. I mean, Thirteen has a couple conversations in the episode about the recklessness of sleeping with a different stranger every night. I really do hope you're right, as it would just be even more depressing otherwise.
One thing that I was wondering about is House's conversation with her as to why women. He says it's not just about the sex, otherwise she'd be sleeping with men, as it's easier to find a willing straight man than a willing gay woman (whatever). He also says it can't just be about sex because she'd sleep with any woman, but this one is hot, so it must be about the conquest, the ability, the control. How do others feel about this assessment?
"No problem is insoluble, given a big enough plastic bag."
I don't know, I find that
I don't know, I find that logic a bit weird. I mean, if I was going to have reckless sex, I'd rather have it with a fly hottie than with some ugly person in the back of the bar... and I have a feeling most people would say the same. I mean, would HE sleep with "any woman"? probably not... he seems to have high standards for the hookers he hires. Odd.
Sex vs connecting
House's apparent attempt to see if she'd connect to Spencer showed to me that he, at least, thought that it was the reckless sex, not the sex with a woman, that was the spiralling. I thought it implied that what she had with Spencer during the middle part of the episode would have been okay, jus tnot what she did at the beginning (and end).
I don't usually watch House, so I don't so much care what happens to her, but if she is bi, it does actually seem just as bad to only have her with women as it would to only have her with men. Which is why we need to get actually gay characters on TV, not just bi, but since she is...
As for House's "why women" theory - I think it's crap. I don't think she really thought it through. Maybe she's just in the mood for women lately, or as she said, she just likes boobs. Or she wanted to ensure a happy ending, and sex with a random guy, from what I've heard, does not always include that. =)
I agree with you. People
I agree with you. People seriously nit pick here and tear the episode to shreds.
It was about sex in general that was reckless not just that it was women.
Not my imagination
I'm so happy I didn't watch this...
I knew they would just build the story up and then send it crashing down. I'm done with hoping they put a decent lesbian couple on television. I'll stick to the fan fiction. Seems like the amatures have better ideas then the professionals.
And no doubt...it will be
And no doubt...it will be the caring love and attention of a man that pulls her out of her spiral.
She needs saved - or so they're obviously suggesting - and as girls seem to be the safe option for her to 'get some and get gone' on, then it'll more than likely be a guy that does the saving. Giving it up to a guy means more than it does with women...obvously. She's holding herself back from the possibility of anybody getting hold of more than her booty. Women = easy and safe, men = possible relationship. Or so they appear to be saying.
Urgh. Just once can't we have a 'normal' bi girl who doesn't sleep around with girls just to show how reckless her life has become?
I won't be watching this unless somebody gets a clue.
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mixed emotions
Indeed!
Aren't previews supposed to be small bits of the episode rather than the other way around?!
I did like the Thirteen/Spencer connection even though it only lasted for 5 minutes. I didn't like the portrayal of Thirteen tho!It's like she sleeps with girls to fulfill her sexual needs but then only confides in Foreman when it comes to her emotions. Seems like she can only have a lesbian relationship with someone who's dying so she won't feel so alone. If that's the case, my vote's for Foreman!
wonder if the full thing
wonder if the full thing will air in the uk. doubt it, lol!!
after reading the previous article on monday, i caved and watched the first four episodes online, and then watched the fifth today. i also wondered, what happened to the rest?
but whatever, it's not why i watched. on monday i realised that i miss house. it's definitely my fave programme, and i sat for a few minutes wondering if i should watch now, or wait until it airs here next year (i assume it's not going to air any earlier, although other programmes have, ie heroes, and sarah connor chronicles).
okay, so watching won, but a few minutes in, i was still wondering if i should stop and wait.
see that worked, lol!! that's when i realised i miss house and that it was my fave, and i had to keep watching.
when thirteen spent time with spencer (i laughed when they said her name! all spencers are so gay... hehe!) i thought there may have been more to it, but alas, this was not to be. at the end, with yet another woman, i did think, wow, you go girl, lol!!
i assume next week it'll be business as usual, but that doesn't bother me, because we rarely see into any one's private life on the show, anyway. i like that they have a patient who has all the things wrong with them, and there could be so many answers. that's why house is compelling viewing.
i just have to remember to tune in next week, now!
im so glad you took this angle
i watched this episode hoping for a positive lesbian msg. oh how pissed i was to see them use the angle of self destructive temporary lesbian behavior in such a negative light. it just confirmed a stereotype of what bisexual means to the american public. sad!
thank you dorothy for writing this. i was worried that i was being too hard on the show. it left such a bad taste in my mouth that i don't plan on watching it again anytime soon.
positive message?
Who watches House for a positive message on anything? First of all, it's on FOX! Then, as somebody pointed out, there's not much on the personal lives of the doctors anyway. Also, it was psychologically explained: With women she can get the control she wants, the control over her life she can't get otherwise. I agree that there aren't many positive portrayals of bisexuals on tv. But that's not the responsibility of one particular show. Thirteen suffers from a fatal disease. It goes with her character. It's feasible she would spiral out of control without wanting to get pregnant. And besides, there's hardly any "normal" character on this show. So why should the bisexual woman be the responsible one, the role model? I like the character Thirteen this way, it makes her human. I think I can empathize with her. I was glad she got her job back. What I'm not looking forward to is seeing her developing symptoms for Huntington's in the coming weeks. I think the ending of this episode was more realistic than some great epiphany she could have had about not giving up etc. But I must admit I wouldn't approve much of a Foreman/
BubblesThirteen rescuing romance either. (Is that what he does to get rid of his Boring tag? Please no.)Alright ramble over. Now pound me. I can take it. Loved the episode. (although not as much as last week's.)
finally someone along my
finally someone along my lines. ok, so i was thinking that everyone (or most) of the people not happy with this bisexual storyline are not really into house. house is like my fav. show so believe me when i say i was excited for this to come up. but in house relationships are the last focus of the show, one of the reasons i love it, and always have very not possitive relations. they show many dark topics in house, they never go having happy endings or anything. look at the only christmas episode: house overdosed and the patient almost died because of it. this show is never, if it keeps true to itself, going to show something like a healthy relationship. i dont seem to like the idea that they should treat bi women relationships any differet.
in my opinion her self-distructiveness althoughlinked with her relationship with women is ENTIRELY due to the fact that she has a death sentence. but that is just me! (:
maybe i just want to see it in a good way because i loooove house and looove olivia wilde.
so disappointing...
yet another wasted opportunity to portray bisexual women in a non-negative light on TV. I tried to be hopeful, but once again promos (as hot as they may be) tend to be far better than the episodes themselves. As for the missing 20 seconds, screw censorship or REALLY unfortunate editing. Goes to show how networks really know how to do PR and build up hype for ratings though...
House's "jokes" or sarcastic comments regarding her personal life were a bit annoying and invasive, but I liked how the character of Thriteen ignored them for the most part and remained professional. A tad depressing that Thirteen feels so alone in dealing with her diagnosis... Isn't it sad that she only felt a connection with Spencer when she thought they both had a terminal diagnosis? :(
Ah well, at least we still have Grey's Anatomy and the potential storyline there for better buildup and character development. Hopefully Grey's won't be another letdown *fingers crossed*....
of all men...
shorter scene
i was not feelin the fact that the scene was shorter than the preview we got its bullshit..literally. it was over before it even got started wtf man! they should have thirteen do this every week with a different girl with different problems then i'll be happy :)
im soooo against the idea of "forteen" it makes me sick and i wont watch the show ever again seeing that last night was my only reason for watchin lol
im also pissed on how when thirteen hooks up with a girl its negative and self destructive..im sure when her and foreman hook up it will be a long scene and all loving and a bunch of grossness!! they need to bring megan fox to the show now that would be a hott scene!
Lucky Thirteen
I posted this on another House thread, but...
I've never watched an episode of House before last night's. I don't know if I'll watch another one because the main character House is so annoying. I get that he's supposed to be "jerky-entertaining" (ie Dan Fielding on Night Court), but he's not funny, he's just...............annoying.
And his analysis of Thirteens' behavior?????
1) She must be single and promiscuous because she doesn't have sex toys? WTF?
2) His "why not men" analysis... "She's into picking up beautiful women because she's a control freak?" Maybe heaven forbid, she actually finds hot women attractive? And if she's going to hook up with strangers, she has less risk of being overpowered or worse by another woman than a male stranger.
At least Thirteen's date had short fingernails, so something was semi-realistic.
(If they're going to go the route of "bisexual has cheap meaningless sex with same-sex but only gets emotionally involved with opposite sex stereotype", I'd rather they did it with a bi male character than a bi female)
I agree with you that
I agree with you that House's biphobic comments are senseless and way out of line, and I strongly agree with the larger point that this storyline is biphobic and insulting. (And I would have been very mad about those 20 seconds if I had watched the show. Instead I just saw the preview. On repeat.)
But I have to say--
I know personally more than one woman who's been date-raped by another woman, and the domestic violence agency I work with gets A LOT of calls from same-sex date rape or acquaintane rape victims, because they have nowhere else to go. So I don't think you can say she has "less risk" hooking up with a female stranger than a male one.
Rape is a hugely underrreported crime, but woman-to-woman rape is even more underreported. We've known since the early 1980s that domestic violence happens in same-sex relationships at the same rate as it does in different-sex relationships; I think it's dangerous to make assumptions.
I say this because I've found that there's a strong connection between denying that woman can rape and mistreating same-sex rape victims. I know one case where a woman called a rape crisis line to report what had happened to her, and when they found out that her date had been a woman, THEY HUNG UP ON HER! (I realize that you're not doing anything like this, but that's why I feel like I have to speak up.)
Maybe Thirteen thinks she has less risk, but she would be wrong...although that's not so different from a lot of women....including me before some awful things happened to friends of mine.
OK, now that I've gotten that out--end of public service message. Let's go back to hating on House.
20 seconds well missed
I literally screamed "WHAT THE F***?!?" at my tv when they jumped over that beautiful 20 seconds. I was so disappointed that during the first commercial break I watched the original online. :)
This episode was pretty freaking awesome. The interplay between House and Hadley was great, we all know House loves his sexual innuendo. I wasn't a fan of Spencer in the beginning and don't think I ever actually warmed up to her but I thought it was sweet how Hadley warmed up to her (even though it was because she was terminal). I liked seeing the softer side of Hadley but it really is horrible that the writers decided to make her lady-loving into a reckless thing. I mean didn't Liz Friedman write this episode? Isn't she supposed to be all "Yay Gay!"?
Anyways, I loved House's "Another life saved by girl-on-girl action," that was hilarious.
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blinked
This was the first, and probably last, episode of House I've ever watched. I totally agree about the negative portrayal of bisexuality. I especially hated House's explanation that Thirteen wanted to gain a sense of control over her own body by controlling other women. Eww. The whole thing turned me off, and I didn't even realize they cut the hottest parts of the sex scene (I turned on my TV a couple minutes late and missed the very scene I had tuned in to see). That just adds insult to injury.
ETA: Liz Friedman wrote it?!!! That just adds double insult to injury. Surely she will not allow the "Foreteen" storyline (however cute the name is). A woman is saved from her self-destructive dalliances with women by getting together with a man???! Come on, Liz, don't let it happen.
Fox strikes again
Disappointing
My partner and I almost missed the scene. She didn't know about it. When it was over (too soon) I was like what the? It seemed much much shorter than the promo clip.
We too did not like the message about her girl-on-girl action being a part of her destructive downward spiral. We found that insulting. However, it did seem to me somewhat refreshing to see a female on the prowl in much the same way they usually portray males on the prowl, one night stands, etc. And for some reason, it didn't seem "Shane-like" at all.
Am I the only one?
I mean, it wasn't what I expected, but I like drama and this was definitly drama ;)
The interaction between Thirteen and Spencer was nice, so I don't care about those 20 seconds, I like them together, unfortunatly they aren't going to be together.
The only thing I didn't like in this episode were the bonding moments between Foreman & Thirteen, I just can't see them together, ugh..
Anyway, I'll be watching the next episode :)
Me too!
It wasn't 'exactly' negative
Thirteen is feeling alone and when she tries to feel something, she chooses to find that through sleeping with women. That is positive to an extent. Her choice could have been with men yet by having sex with women, she is, at least, trying to feel alive.
Pity about the editing - was looking forward to the extended scene.
Speaking as a long time fan of House...
I'd like to start by saying that I have been watching House since it premiered and love the show, and I was overjoyed to find Olivia Wilde had been added to the cast last season and absolutely floored when I found out her character was bisexual. For me, last night's episode was one of the best I've seen in a long time, in no doubt because of the exploration of Thirteen's character, because this show so rarely focuses on personal developement of anyone other than House. It seems to me that everyone is WAY too focused on the missing 20 seconds of footage...I mean...you still got to see some extra girl-on-girl action, which I am certainly happy with. (maybe when Spencer said to Thirteen, "you have 20 seconds" she was inadvertently speaking to the audience something like, "you already had your extra 20 seconds, now enjoy the rest of the episode.")
Anyway, while people were pissed at the intro being cut differently, some may have failed to notice the superb acting from Olivia Wilde, the witty and extremely amusing quips from House during the first biopsy (or whatever they were doing). Someone should capture Olivia Wilde's expression when Spencer said her performance was only a 7, which was priceless. I particularly liked this episode because it focused much less on the House-Wilson relationship, which *yawn*, bores me to no end. No matter Thirteens reasons for expressing her promiscuity with only women, I still found her interactions with another woman as fascinating and well played.
I will, however, jump on the bandwagon and say that I am not looking foreward to a Forteen relationship....Foreman is just too boring for Thirteen.
Yes
this is pretty much my take on the episode. I mean, surely those missing 20 seconds will be restored on the DVD?
I too respond with a reflexive "eww" at the thought of Forteen, but House is not a predictable or formulaic show. They may yet manage to do something interesting with it.
agree..
i liked the episode
I understood why she picked up women and not men. It's harder to pull an attractive woman than it is a man. She needs to feel powerful and like she has some sort of control in her life right now. It's hard to feel that way with a guy who was easy to get and most likely trying to get u on your back. This ep was not about her bisexuality, it was about her reaction to her illness. One has nothing to do with the other. I don't know about other people, but my sexuality doesn't effect my behavior in every aspect.
If she dates Foremen that will be the most insane, stupid, illadvised, backwards, thing ever!!! just saying. he should prove he's not boring by dating a whore, like wilson did.
Hummm!!!
I'm mad at myself for
I'm mad at myself for watching that episode! Angela Gotts and Olivia Wilde are super super hot, and together they're like an explosive mixture... BUT what the hell are these writers thinking?!
Isn't Liz Friedman gay? She's a freaking traitor to the gay community!!!
I mean, I get that Thirteen's picking up women instead of men, because like House said, it's a challenge to pick up beautiful (that's a synonym for STRAIGHT girls, in the House writers language) women. While 13 would never be having a problem with picking up a men or ugly women (synonym for lesbians, I think), 'cuz she's fucking hot.
But I think the way they treated the whole 13-dying thing is over the top. I mean I don't know personally, but the aunt of one of my closest friends died a year ago, knowing she only had a 5 or 6 weeks (because the cancer had already taken over her whole body) left to live. She was 38 years old. And she tried to live the rest of her life to the fullest. She did not start to take drugs, picking up men in a local bar...
As for "Foreteen" I'm freaking mad!!! Why not bring in Foreman's hot sister (hopefully played by Rose Rollins) and let them hook up? Why does he have to be the one that's saving Thirteen from women???
I think the Thirteen-Spencer thing had potential, but that one's over, now...
I'll wait to see how this storyline evolves until I am watching an episode of this show... I'm still so mad at Liz Friedman!!!
umm, no ,,,
I missed the first 15 minutes of the show and wish I had missed the rest of it too.
The show is determined to give Foreman some action and has decided to make 13 the chick. Ok, Brothaman Foreman does need a life. But.
Using 13 to spread the myth that bisexuals are amoral nymphomanics may be ratings gold but for me it mainly provides an oportunity to find something better to do with my time. I was already pissed off with the show; the whole thing of House investigating his employees to find ways to f**k up their lives was ugly enough. But now we bring out the old chesnut of having a man "save" Thirteen through the power of his mighty man love and, well, I'm sure I can find better ways to spend an hour on Tuesday nights.
Also, this episode shows just how lacking in imagination the people who produce the show - especially executive producer Katie Jacobs - are. Anyone watching the dailies when the Thirteen & Spencer scenes came in, should have seen the chemistry there and gone with it. But nooooo.
And while I'm ranting, why is it that the only female love interests on this show are white? If you are going to hook Foreman up with someone, what is the problem with having him date a sistah?
House
I wasn't particularly happy with how they portrayed Thirteen's bisexuality, but it's House so I'm not really that surprised. They have a tendency to only show the characters' personal lives when they're doing something kind of messed up.
I am pretty annoyed that they cut those 20 seconds. That was just mean. Also, there's no way Thirteen would only be a 7.
So typical...
The shorter version caught me off guard...I mean they did show the whole thing in the promo so what harm could a few more seconds do?Damn...
Foreman and 13?Oh no...only in a horror movie! I wonder how it is possible to match a guy who has expressed no feelings or whatsoever towards another human being and a bi-woman (who defines fun as sleeping with women) who has no intention to bond with anyone. Sounds so unreal already, let alone if it actually happens...
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To be honest with you, it didn't surprise me one bit that Fox went and used their awesome dramas to promote their agenda. They did it last season on House by portraying a gay man as nothing more than the stereotypical drug addicted all-night partying gay man with AIDS from having frivolous sex with too many men. The gay man didn't overcome his stereotype in the end. He died before he could.
And, we all know what 24 is pushing.
Typical.
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*clears throat* Will the 20 seconds be available on DVD?....
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Spiral...
Okay so I mentioned this earlier and I will quote myself verbatim... I hope some of you don't get mad at me for saying this... But whatever, I just didn't think that it was an issue of sleeping with girls.
"I will play the 'benefit of doubt' card here and say that maybe the recklessness issue was not directed toward sleeping with women versus sleeping with men... Perhaps it had to do with picking up strangers and sleeping with them without even knowing their names..."
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I just didn't get the impression a lot of you seemed to have gotten about this whole thing.
agree..
Oh Boy
Well house or no house I did love the brief girl on girl. Actually it had a story for a change, though the same ol mess with a girl get saved and run off to the Sunset with a boy yawn.
I only watch House because my partner likes it. If you've seen one ep you've just about seen them all. This one was different if not the same. House has no redeeming qualities and the whole grunge thing yuk. He creeps me out.
Isn't the girl 13 picked up the girl who played Shane on the L Words les girls. Really like them both. Angela Gotts and Olivia Wilde HOT< HOT< HOT.
Olivia Wilde is my new girl crush. She's pretty talented too.
Please DO NOT !! put this beautiful women with Formen (OMFG), yuk, yuk yuk, Rose Rollins oh yes!!
JUST SAY NO TO "FOURTEEN"!!
I'm waving a banner above her head
Duh! This was the kind of review, I was hoping for. The episode was kind of double tracked for me. On the one hand, there was obviously a bad banner waving all above Thirteen saying "I'm gay when stray(ed)"...(Ok. That was not that good as I hoped it would be, but you got my point.) But on the other side. Well, this short moment, when she first reaches to Spencers hand, then pulling herself off to the bed an laying beside her whatsoever, well, that was cute. And really nice shot. This scene made the whole episode worth to watch. Maybe I'm kind of too romantic here, but this scene was really a good one. Just so calm and simple. I like it this way.
Well yeah, I'm not sure where to put this episode. Maybe we get to see a character, who developes a bit more and learns from her past. And maybe we actually are confronted with "Forteen" (aargh, hope not!).
Thought it was just me!
I'm glad someone mentioned this. I was afraid that since I moved from a good sized city to SW Missouri for school (if it was any more conservative down here, they wouldn't have to waste the ink putting the Democrats on the ballot!), I simply missed out because they trimmed it for my market! My consolation? If you don't quite focus during the closing scene, you can imagine the blonde is Cameron.
The connection between Remy and the patient just wasn't believable, IMO, even though it was supposed to be only through grief. I'm not sure if it was a directorial failure or what, but even though I saw that they were *trying* to show a sort of progression of intimacy between them as Remy first held her hand, and then sat on the bed, and then they cuddled, I just didn't feel it. The physical representations of their emotional intimacy went too far without much to support any graduality or even clear impitus for the deepening (save the presumably subconscious grief connection), so not only did it feel rushed/forced, it had the feeling of an actual relationship rather than them just being a rock in the storm for each other.
And re: “Another life saved by girl-on-girl action.” I turned to my friend who was watching it with me and said "Forget my liking the mental challenge of diagnosing people. That is why I'm going into medicine."
I haven't
It’s seems such a shame that nothing serious will come of this storyline with Thirteen and this other woman, because Fox could have been on to such a good thing if they had been genuinely interested in portraying a happy, sexy and stable relationship with two women that wasn’t all about…, well nothing much, as seems apparent now.