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Joss Whedon on feminism, sexism and popular culture

Maybe you’re a Buffy fan; maybe you’re not. Maybe you’re a Joss Whedon fan; maybe you’re not. But I think we can agree that we're all — unequivocally — fans of women. Period. End of discussion.

Since I am a big fan of all three of those, I stopped by Whedonesque this weekend to check up on the latest happenings in the world that Joss built. What I read there both broke and mended my heart.

This well-managed and lovingly-tended community weblog is a depository for any and all news on projects by the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (and Angel and Firefly and I could go on) and the actors, writers and other creative folks who logged time in the Whedonverse. Every now and then those actors, writers and Joss himself pop in to say hi and interact with readers.

On Friday, Joss stopped by and — with the eloquence and anger, the wit and wisdom he has displayed throughout his career — laid out one of the most moving and articulate defenses of women’s equality that I have ever read. His post was prompted by the horrific video of the “honor killing” of 17-year-old Dua Khalil, a Kurdish teenager who was stoned, kicked and beaten to death by a mob of angry men (some of whom were relatives) last month. The murder was captured on camera phones and posted for all the world to see. As if we needed more proof that better living through technology is an illusion.

But Joss’ aim wasn’t to tsk-tsk from afar at the cultural mores of a people half a world away. Instead, he attacked the underlying attitude that led to both the brutal killing in Iraq and the creation of the upcoming “torture-porn” horror film Captivity in the U.S. The attitude that there is something inherently inferior about women and that we are therefore somehow expendable. The idea that there is something fundamentally wrong with us.

His post, in part (but, please, do yourself a big favor and read the whole thing here):

“I try to think how we got here. The theory I developed in college (shared by many I’m sure) is one I have yet to beat: Womb Envy. Biology: women are generally smaller and weaker than men. But they’re also much tougher. Put simply, men are strong enough to overpower a woman and propagate. Women are tough enough to have and nurture children, with or without the aid of a man. Oh, and they’ve also got the equipment to do that, to be part of the life cycle, to create and bond in a way no man ever really will. Somewhere a long time ago a bunch of men got together and said, ‘If all we do is hunt and gather, let’s make hunting and gathering the awesomest achievement, and let’s make childbirth kinda weak and shameful.’ It’s a rather silly simplification, but I believe on a mass, unconscious level, it’s entirely true. How else to explain the fact that cultures who would die to eradicate each other have always agreed on one issue? That every popular religion puts restrictions on women’s behavior that are practically untenable? That the act of being a free, attractive, self-assertive woman is punishable by torture and death? In the case of this upcoming torture-porn, fictional. In the case of Dua Khalil, mundanely, unthinkably real. And both available for your viewing pleasure.”

I’m sure the irony of a man writing a feminist essay is not lost on some of you. But then, if you believe in a world that is truly equal, it shouldn’t be a surprise that a man could be a feminist or that a woman could be a sexist. If anything deserves to be beaten and buried, it is the man-hating lesbian myth. It’s not doing us any favors.

Those familiar with Joss’ work will know that he has a long history of writing strong female characters and for injecting sly feminist statements into his zippy dialogue. Last year he was honored by Equality Now (the group linked in his post title — don’t worry, the link doesn’t take you to that terrible video). His speech then, like his post, was emphatic.

Is he perfect? Of course not. None of us is. (Let's not reopen the old wound that is Tara’s untimely death.) But what Joss’ post does —besides put a catch in my throat with each repeated reading — is remind us that our popular culture need not be expendable. Just because it’s popular, doesn’t mean it can’t have substance. It can also inform and educate and, with brilliant flashes of grace, move us to action.

“Because it’s no longer enough to be a decent person. It’s no longer enough to shake our heads and make concerned grimaces at the news. True enlightened activism is the only thing that can save humanity from itself. I’ve always had a bent towards apocalyptic fiction, and I’m beginning to understand why. I look and I see the earth in flames. Her face was nothing but red.”

Dammit. Now I really wish Joss were still directing the new Wonder Woman film. In a world where Anna Nicole Smith’s baby daddy drama and Britney Spears’ bald head get the same “breaking news” treatment as a car bombing in Fallujah or the politically-based firing of federal prosecutors, our sense of outrage is in dire need if a tune-up. Now more than ever, we need men and women who think like Joss informing our popular culture. So the question then becomes, just like in Buffy’s final speech to the potential slayers, are we ready to heed their battle cry? Are you ready to be strong?

CharmedLassie's picture

Spot on Joss

There really isn't anything to add, he said it all. All we need now is for people to listen. Then again, I hear David Beckham's got a new hair cut so it might go on the back-burner.
wake_up's picture

joss is THE man.

joss is THE man.

NorthernStar's picture

If ever a man there was... :)

If ever a man there was... :)
notl33t's picture

Frightening, but there is hope

I worship at the various shrines for Joss Whedon, and I can honestly say that he's really opened up many a male fangeek's mind. His writing, both onscreen and in comics, is centered around small families (Buffy, Angel, X-men, etc . . .), how such motley crews come together and how they weather crises.

The rant he posted on Whedonesque this past weekend is a good example of how he expresses his humanistic point of view. It was a very clear piece of writing on a scary and awful subject.

From the many responses that are posted on Whedonesque, it is obvious to me that people are frightened, but also hopeful. There is so much that every single one of us can do to change things. A blog with a lot of information about Honor Killings is http://www.blogsofwar.com, which is where I was able to view the Al-Jazheera video below.

Honor Killings - Riz Khan from Al-Jazheera reports on this hard subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Kh6FNve2E

wickedgrrl's picture

Joss

Joss blows my mind.  I have so many friends raising what are now baby boys soon to be men.  I can only hope they are raised with the convictions and awareness of Joss.  I think I'll send them the youtube vid and the blog.

violetsnvalium's picture

Interesting

Have never really been a Buffy fan or seen anything else that Joss has done, but this was interesting. Why shouldn't a man be a feminist? Isn't a feminist just someone who wants equality for the sexes? It's probably more *unusual* for a man to be a feminist (because it's nice to get paid more, isn't it?), but that doesn't mean that there aren't any.

Dorothy, you're right! Let's get rid of the man-hating dyke label! Being a feminist is not about wanting death to all men (even though on certain days it's tempting. Actually, I tell a lie. On certain days, I just want death to all *people*).

jennifer from pittsburgh's picture

Joss

Joss is more of a proud, front and center feminist than a lot of women I know.
EleetheGreat's picture

i really, really like him.

i really, really like him. and buffy is awesome. :D
gooby's picture

Joss is THE man. The kind of

Joss is THE man. The kind of man I wish all men would be like. And he is THE awesome. And I will NOT go and see Captivity. EVER. I'm just hoping that movie will do extremely poorly.
Doc McG's picture

Ain't it the truth

it shouldn’t be a surprise that a man could be a feminist or that a woman could be a sexist.
Ain't that the truth. Trouble is, too many women are ready to apologise for or outright disavow the feminist label. Want to know why sexism stlil pervades popular entertainment (in storytelling, casting ratios, etc.)? One need look no further than any well-moderated, pan-fandom, television discussion board: the negativity directed toward female characters by female fans is astounding and appallingly pervasive. At 'best', female characters are given less attention than their male counterparts in discussions; at worst they're subjected to venom, invective, and blatant double-standards. Moreover, it seems to me that, overall, women express more preference for male characters than for female characters. Between the sexism (conscious or not) of filmmaking & television executives and the failure of women to speak out for and support stronger portrayals and presence of women onscreen, I despair that things will get better any time soon.
godsbedamned's picture

Language

"If anything deserves to be beaten and buried, it is the man-hating lesbian myth. It’s not doing us any favors."

Isn't the myth (or stereotype?) held by society about lesbians? And meant to police them/us (as a part of compulsory heterosexuality)? When you say "it's not doing us any favors," you blame lesbians for the way they are characterized by the dominant majority, which, to me, is a sort of 'blame the victim' type of work. And, while you can find evidence to support all stereotypes, I don't think it's a fair claim that most lesbians hate men.

I hope this doesn't seem trivial. When the discussion is about sexism, I think it's important to check our own assumptions.

tam358's picture

Very well stated.

Very well stated.
what wasted unconditonal love's picture

Joss Joss Joss

 he can do no wrong( except, like ms. snarker said, Tara's death, still very much an open wound for me too)

I respect him so much for the work that he does and the heart and passion he puts into everything. I swear if he was a woman he would be the most lesbian-y lesbian ever

damnhippie's picture

"I’m sure the irony of a

"I’m sure the irony of a man writing a feminist essay is not lost on some of you. But then, if you believe in a world that is truly equal, it shouldn’t be a surprise that a man could be a feminist or that a woman could be a sexist."

indeed.  My father is one of the best feminists I know (in addition to my mom) as opposed to many young women I know keep selling their sisters out.  Complaining about your boyfriend or how annoying men are does not make a person a feminist. Respecting women and men and wanting to be able to sit down at the proverbial table with them probably does.

Anyway, that video and speech is amazing.   I'm not that into Buffy or anything, but I have always thought of Joss Whedon as talented.  Good to know that he's talented and a nice guy.

tam358's picture

This is hard to word. I

This is hard to word. I adore Joss Whedon and his work. I will always be a Buffy fan. I think he completely believes in the words that he's said and that Equality Now video was so moving I actually played it on my radio show. His beliefs are strong and empowering. But, I think he's a lot better at talking the talk, than walking it.

The Buffyverse has not stood the test of time with me. I loved it as a teenager but now, I don't think the female characters were nearly as strong as they once seemed. There are two types of female characters on that show. Ones that are eventually weak and powerless to their emotions, and ones that are strong but unemotional and often evil. Buffy lets her boyfriend kill a bunch of people and hooks up with her would-be rapist. Willow turns dark and succumbs to an addiction. Tara doesn't get to do much and then she dies. On the other hand are the strong characters. Like Glory and Faith, who are mostly evil. I don't consider Faith evil but it's not explored much. Yes the characters evolve, but not by that much. Possibly the only one that managed to be both strong and emotional was Anya, but even she snapped and got a ton of people killed. Joss wrote a lot of women who did very bad things because of love and relationships gone bad. Is that feminism?

what wasted unconditonal love's picture

it's not feminism dear, i

it's not feminism dear, i believe it's called being human

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