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Live-blogging the Xena Convention: Friday

Live-blogging the Xena Convention in Burbank! To see all Xena Con posts, click here.

Burbank, CA is the unofficial headquarters of the Lesbian Nation this weekend -- and the site of the official 13th Annual Xena: Warrior Princess Convention, which begins at 12:20 PM Pacific Time this afternoon.

Today we've got:

An opening greeting from Xena Fan Club manager Sharon Delaney, followed by actor Adrienne Wilkinson who played Eve/Livia. Then at 1:20 PM will be writer Katherine Fugate (Army Wives), who wrote the ultimate subtexty Xena episode "When Fates Collide" as well as a script for a possible Xena film. At 1:20 PM, we'll hear from X:WP writer Steven Sears -- who sat down with me this morning for a fantastic interview about lesbian heroes.

Just a few words about how I live-blog: Anything in quotation marks is a direct quote. Anything else is a paraphrase or summary. I update my live-blogging every few minutes, so if you're following along live, just hit "refresh" now and then. I'll start a new post for each day. There will be typos, which I'll go back and correct periodically.

I'll also be at Lucy Lawless' concerts tonight and Saturday night, and will wrap up each day's coverage with photos and reports from that. Renee O'Connor told me she'll be appearing both nights with Lucy and they have something very special planned. Lucy told me she's letting her inner cowgirl out this year -- if that means a repeat of last year's chaps and jeans, I'm a happy fangirl.

I'll be back soon!

12:20 PM Pacific Time... here we go!

After a fan-made video called "Subtext for Dummies" showed, fan club manager Sharon Delaney introduced actor Adrienne Wilkinson, who played Eve/Livia. She was out at the Xena day in support of the WGA writers' strike, and she talked about that a bit.

She was asked for her favorite episode, and she said it was "Eve" -- in which she got to chop off a guy's head. Which was actually a cabbage, and a guy with an enormous syringe full of fake blood. But she did suggest if you ever have to lift your arms to hack off someone's head on camera, just be sure they remember to put body makeup in your armpits.

For those who don't remember or aren't as obsessed, Eve/Livia is Xena's daughter. And Livia has two mommies, becuase through the same kind of Xenaverse magic that let Xena and her daughter be almost the same age, Livia's "father" was Xena's arch-nemesis, the leather-clad blonde butt-kicking Callisto (Hudson Leick).

A fan asked what it was like to have Xena and Gabrielle as your parents. She said they are so beautiful and loving, it was easy. "I would never have realized how much you can affect people, I got a call from my mother who was convinced that if I had so much buried rage at Xena, maybe she and I had some things we need to discuss. But no, I convinced her that I didn't want to burn a village because of anger at her."

Fan: Is it hard being an actor?

Adrienne: "It is when you're not acting." She talked about how hard the WGA strike is on actors as well as writers. The strike is a big topic here at the convention.

Did she like playing the evil Livia or the good Eve better? She loved playing Livia -- characters without boundaries are more fun to play. She enjoyed playing Eve in "You Are There" -- a sort of "time travel" humor episode. She loved how Xena went all over the place in that way.

Adrienne left the stage to a standing ovation.

Next was Katherine Fugate, who got a standing ovation before she even arrived on the stage. Katherine wrote the most lesbian XWP episode of all time, the Xena/Gabrielle alternate reality love story "When Fates Collide."

Katherine gave a "special shout out" for the Xena fans who turned up at the strike lines yesterday. "It's so moving that people recognize the writers' contribution to the finished project." She said she cried.

She handed out prizes to people who will ask her a question -- starting with a Gabrielle doll and a Xena doll. She said that the Xena doll and the Gabrielle doll will go to separate fans, but "perhaps those two will make a love connection."

She also had items from her current (although shut down due to the strike) show on Lifetime, Army Wives. (Note from Christie: Renee O'Connor told me last week that when the show goes back into production, she's going to be in a month-long story arc on it -- yet another reason to want the strike to end! UPDATE: More on this later from Katherine!)

Fan: If you could have ended the series, how would you have ended it?

Katherine: I'll give you the bad answer and then the honest answer. My writing style is very romantic and emotional. Some people don't care for that. "That just happens to be the way I see the world." They always meant for Xena to die, and given that, she'd have had Xena die protecting "the women she loved," Gabrielle.

Katherine said it was her intention in "When Fates to Collide" to show Xena and Gabrielle would find each other in any life, in any time.

Fan: When will you be producing a gay character on Army Wives?

Katherine: You know Renee is my best friend, and she's going to be in a 5-6 episode story arc for me. Let's just say you may see her in a position you wish'd you seen her in on Xena.

Katherine said that in developing "When Fates Collide," she thought about how the period when Xena was evil is what made her end up doing good, and without it she wouldn't have become who she was and she'd have never met "the love of her life," Gabrielle. She was examining how there are things that are bigger than everything, even bigger than fate -- after all, she said, something created the Fates and set them there. (In that episode, Gabrielle burns the loom of the Fates when Xena is killed, and restores them, and us, to the familiar main Xena timeline again.)

She is creator, producer, writer, director of Army Wives. She discusses what it's like to battle with herself over when she's going to compromise and when she has to stand firm and say no. "It doesn't have to be my way, if it can still be good. You learn to lose your control issues.... Compromise is your biggest lesson."

Fan: Did you have the whole story of "When Fates Collides" in your mind when you began it?

Katherine: Pitched it as Xena and Gabrielle destined to be together. Rob and RJ trusted me and let me go. "I think they were afraid of me. I was very honest and very sincere." They turned her down at first, but she begged and "passonately threw out all my ideas and jumped on the couch."

Fan: How miuch Xena had you watched before writing "When Fates Collide"?

Katherine: First episode she saw was "Ides of March." Then she backtracked and watched almost everything. RJ said in your cover letter you spelled Xena with an "X"... do you know how many writers spell it with a "Z"?

They also let her see some of the episodes that hadn't aired yet at the time. A layered process.

Fan: Sneak peak of next season of Army Wives?

Will have 19 instead of 13 episodes this year, and will have more time. Yes, we have the drama and the sex, "and Renee having sex with...someone," and someone will die, because that's the world we live in. She can't say much more due to the cliffhanger ending of last season. One of her priorities was putting Renee in the next season. Renee wanted to show herself as a sexual, sensual woman. She's going to be the aggressor. "Now you'll be happy."

"If I can touch one person with my career, I can die happy."

"I've never written a mainstream movie. My show is on a cable network." She's never gone after the big money projects. "If I"m sitting on a porch at 85, and it's my last sunset," I don't want to have a lot of regrets. "I doubt I'm going to say I should have had a big mansion."

2:20 PM: XWP writer Steven Sears, one of the industry's most queer-inclusive straight male writers. I was blown away by our interview this morning.

He updated on the writers' strike. "It's a tragedy what's going on... It's unneccessary we've been locked out of negotiations for this long." They are working out individual interim agreements. Negotiations are going on behind the scenes and there is a news blackout, but he's hoping within three weeks, people will be back to work. Says a lot of people are out of work -- not just writers.

WGA has a non-writer fund for non-writers who have suffered because of the strike.

Fan: Will you be at the London Xena convention?

He says he will!

Fan: What did Xena mean when she said Gabrielle was her light?

Steven: He said, we all write from our own perspective on what the series is and who the characters are. He discussed the transformation of Xena from someone who didn't just want to DO good, but someone who was herself full of the light. And to genuinely want to preserve that light for all humanity. "Wow, I really think too much about all that stuff."

Gabrielle was a reminder of what Xena could have been. The importance that Gabrielle had to Xena at some point paled next to what she realized Gabrielle could be for the rest of the world. And she was put in the situation to be the person to feed the light, protect the light, preserve the light, not for her, but for humanity.

Even her evil past was part of the destiny that led her to Gabrielle. She was the instrument. She didn't like the evil she had done, but it laid the groundwork -- biblical analogies.

Fan: How would you have ended the series?

Steven: The way I would have ended Xena, she would still die. But I'd have done it differently. A lot in our series we reference the Battle of Corinth the broke up the Amazon tribes and the Centaurs. I'd have recreated that, all the tribes of the world in one gigantic battle -- Middle Earth, Lord of the Rings. She'd have died because she knew her love was the light of the entire world, to make sure Gabrielle and her contribution were preserved.

I agree I'd have not made it about a person we didn't know anything about before that arc. The entire series was building this relationship, and then it's over here about this other person.

I'd have had an end kind of like Star Wars, with the cheering crowds and Gabrielle on a throne, with a ghost of the Warrior Princess standing behind her with her hand on her shoulder.

From Christie: I'm wrapping this up for now, and will be back sometime after 10 PM Pacific Time with a report from Lucy's concert at the Roxy!

Tomorrow's guests include Lucy and Renee, as well as -- be still oh lesbian hearts -- Ted Raimi (Joxer).

Continued here... 

explorergal's picture

Xena still rocks

Thanks for doing this Christie.  I have gone in past years but not able to go this year.

I still have all my DVD's and Xena dolls though!  

Still reading the fan fiction too!!

burg21's picture

i seriously

can not wait for army wives to air. i have never been a fan, but now I want to watch it from the begining. i now need to know everything about the show. And this is just because of renee and the fact that she is going to be on the show. CAN'T WAIT!!!
Gelphie's picture

You

took the words...right out of my mouth! This is gonna ROCK!! 

"If you should see her...tell her I miss her still." -- Galinda. 'Wicked'
Gelphie's picture

You

took the words...right out of my mouth! This is gonna ROCK!! 

"If you should see her...tell her I miss her still." -- Galinda. 'Wicked'
RenRiet's picture

I am having trouble

I am having trouble breathing. Haha seriously...Renee...on Army Wives...in a probably gay role? Having sex?

Ok I have died and gone to HEAVEN.

christiekeith's picture

Yes, the journalistic

Yes, the journalistic objectivity is a bit shaken.
RenRiet's picture

Haha Christie I'm a

Haha Christie I'm a journalist too...and I could NOT maintain my objectivity around Ren or Luce. You're a brave soul (and more importantly...I gosh darn lucky one!) :)
shortstack51's picture

Thanks!

I've never been to a convention, so I really appreciate this blog, though I hope to be going to one soon! I absolutely adore the show, which helped me through a bad period in my life with its insights, humor, and all-encompassing story about a love that transcends fate and life.

Recently, I actually started rewatching the series (which I have on DVD) from episode 1...being somewhat older, I wonder what I'll see that I didn't before. (Unfortunately, I was 5 when the show first began airing, and only watched its reruns occasionally as a middle schooler...luckily I became wiser in high school!)

I truly respect Katherine Fugate as a writer - When Fates Collide was a powerful episode on so many levels, and she tied the episode to the actual 'reality' of the show in many subtle ways I didn't pick up at first ("You can't have a crucifixion without crosses", etc.). I haven't had much of a chance to watch Army Wives, but I'm very, very excited that Renee is going to be on the show (eventually, anyway!). My mom will be ecstatic as well!

Though I was young when the show first aired, looking at the time that's passed and the responses, I'm amazed at the impact the show has had on so many people, including myself. What a legacy.

 

"This is a tree on fire with love, but it's still scary since most people think love only looks like one thing instead of the whole world."

TheWeyrd1's picture

Woo Hoo!!!

Renee in Army Wives...the way we've always wanted to see her!!!  Can't wait to see...DANG WGA STRIKE.  Would somebody knock some sense into the fools that think NOT paying the writers is fair!!!
FrancesRose's picture

So many treats!

Thanks for this live-blog on the XWP Con. Renee on Army Wives...wow.. been waiting for years to see her in a role like this one coming up. It's great to look forward to seeing her as we all so desired! She'll blow us away with her acting....
boywithmoonandstars's picture

Can't wait

for Army Wives now. I got into Xena when Oxygen was airing it in re-runs. Unfortunately I had no idea how it ended. :-( I watched FIN once.....once. The scene in the dungeon in When Fates Collide before Xena is dragged away when she tells Gabrielle "I'll love you forever" gets me every time. Sniff..
eengah's picture

This is so cool!  I've

This is so cool!  I've never been able to make it to one of these but always wished I could hear all that gets talked about.  Thank you so much for sharing!

And suddenly, I feel a strange urge to become a regular Army Wives viewer...

gabxe's picture

BATTLE ON!!!

OH I SO love them!!  Lucy and Renee are the best!!  ,,thanks for being there and let us know whats going on....Cant wait to hear more and,  WHAT ABOUT THE XENA MOVIE???? Come on!! it is about damn time they actually make it....WE NEED IT!!  All of us Xenites still missing Gabby and Xena....PLEAAAASE

Battle on!

invisicoll's picture

Army Wives

As long as Renee's character doesn't end up in 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' land, I think it sounds fantastic.

I've never seen an entire episode of the show, but guess who's a new fan?

CharisxX's picture

Gods, I wish I was there!

Gods, I wish I was there! Thank you for the wonderful play by play! I can not wait to hear what Lucy says...sigh. ;) I want to hear every word! Heh heh. xX 

Charis.xX

"That's right--you can have arm pit hair, a roll of fat, stretch marks--they don't care. They're good for it all. They care what's in your heart." Lucy Lawless VII.XX.MMVII

Tia's picture

Hi Christie !

I hope you have enough time in between work to enjoy this convention. Have fun !

If you really get the chance to ask the Adorable Two some questions, there is one I would have  for Lucy :

Hi Lucy !

I am sure you are getting a lot of compliments on a daily basis, so I will just skip the usual sliming. I've been sleeping under a gas giant (no private Internet access) until recently, so maybe this question is damn old and you are already tired of it, but I will ask anyway : 

Why did you choose to change your style so much after the end of X:WP, from Vamp to Barbie (blonde, curls, lighter eyebrows) and are you really sure you're doing yourself a favour with that, as far as your career as an actress is concerned ? I think you just melted in, becoming one of many blonde, curled actresses (I'm talking about image here, not about talent, you got plenty of that), instead of standing out of the pack, as in the old Xena days. Or has acting finally gone out of the window in favour of singing ?

Anyway, I still admire you (with all your flaws) :)   @>-}-- 

Godspeed

Tia

explorergal's picture

Flaws?

I should have such flaws!

While I prefer the dark haired version, Lucy will always be 'flawless' to me!

And Renee's eyes.....oooooo (melt).

Two very fine and fun ladies who are so genuine and nice because they really are good to their fans.  They also always had great chemistry together.  

Yay for a proposed Xena movie...it's bout time!  Come on Rob and Steven et al....let's get to it!

As for Ted....while we always groaned at Joxer, he's a great actor and good guy.

marshnood's picture

On this site AE, I think it

On this site AE, I think it was "Power Premiere" Renee said she was going to join the cast of Army Wives. Since then I looked for reruns to catch up on the show, but I haven't seen any yet. I know I will become a fan because of Renee.

Thanks Christie for this blog. I've never been to any kind of convention so this is nice to read about.

Mari SanGiovanni's picture

IF not a movie....how about XENA, THE BROADWAY MUSICAL?

Since Lucy and Renee love to perform live for thier audience----have any of the writers thought of doing a broadway musical??? The musicals they did on the show were so much fun and those ladies both can perform live---seems like a no-brainer to me--and the entire gay community would support it! The lesbians, no doubt, but also the guys---that musical number with Joxer all the half naked male dancers would make them fill the seats to be sure! Oh---and musical numbers with the AMAZONS---how cool would that be for the ladies?

As a writer myself, I would be all over this idea if I owned the rights to the Xena story! When Fates Collide was the best episode---and would be a great ending to the musical. Come on Katherine, how bout you get right on this! (AFTER Army Wives w/ Renee, of course!) you need help, just give a shout! (Ha!)

Cheers!

--Mari

 

Mari SanGiovanni

Author of: Greetings From Jamaica, Wish You Were Queer...

www.GreetingsFromJamaica.com


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