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Fan videos and female charactersI’ve often thought that there’s a Ph.D. thesis to be written on the overarching effect of the internet on the gay and lesbian community. On the one hand, there’s the fact that the net potentially exposes the gay user to homophobic hate groups spewing more bile than (hopefully) he or she encounters in the real world on the average day. On the other hand, there are communities like ... well, like AfterEllen.com, which mean that you no longer have to live in a big city or be a bar bunny to gain some sort of feeling of belonging to a lesbian community. And then there’s the phenomenon of the lesbian (or lesbianish) fan video. Fed up with searching for nonexistent out lesbian characters in TV and film, some people just get hold of a film editing program and create their own story lines and emphases out of the raw material provided by the networks.
Which means if I want to see a video that focuses on the subtexty bits between, say, Serena and Blair on Gossip Girl, then it doesn’t take me very long to find one: And a well-made one at that. Admittedly, there’s a bit more of Blair rolling around with various interchangeable boys than I need to see, but I think this video does a great job of capturing the fact that the most powerful emotional relationship on the show is really between the two girls. Which makes a nice change after all the shows — from Starsky and Hutch to Nip/Tuck — focused on male pairs who secretly seem to need each other more than they really need the inconsequential women who pass between them. Then there’s this video centered on Andie (Anne Hathaway) and Miranda (Meryl Streep) from The Devil Wears Prada: Ingenious, no? Especially the choice of Madonna’s "Frozen" for the song, which actually fits Miranda’s character perfectly. As lesbianish pairings go, there’s a rather huge age gap — if I’d been making a video, I probably would have tried to make it between Hathaway and Emily Blunt’s characters — but then, women of Hathaway’s age get cast opposite men of Streep’s age without a second thought in Hollywood. The “fresh-faced female ingenue meets powerful female boss” is certainly a new twist.
One pairing I always secretly wanted to see was Joey (Katie Holmes) and Jen (Michelle Williams) on Dawson’s Creek.
Perhaps because there was never really enough subtext in the original program to support that, I couldn’t find any lesbianish videos featuring them — but I did find this rather excellent, and funny, one that illustrates how the two of them envied and competed against each other in the early seasons of the show: This just reminds me of the thing I really loved about Dawson’s Creek, which was that it had not one but two smart, complex female leads, neither of whom could be slotted easily into the stereotypical characters of “the brain” or “the beauty.” I’ll admit my crush was mainly on Joey, but Michelle Williams is pretty much my pick for most talented young Hollywood actress. Which female TV and film pairings would you like to see get a lesbianish twist? Which relationships between female characters do you find interesting even if they don’t feature gay subtext? Let me know below. Submitted by on February 28, 2008 - 6:02pm. |
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At this moment, I'm totally
At this moment, I'm totally into Buffy/Faith. It's too bad I already know they're never gonna make out, but I'm watching season 3 right now and damn, there's SO much tension! I was watching an episode with commentary by the writer yesterday and even he was saying there was lesbian subtext. It's so hot. Their chemistry is unbelievable.
As for couples where there's not really a lot of subtext, I like Brennan/Angela from Bones. I mean, I love David Boreanaz, so I don't mind Brennan and him being all straight-couple-y, but her with Angela would be cuter. Just sayin'.
Edit - How could I forget Sara/Sofia from CSI?! Awesome chemistry, I'm still pissed Sara left before they hooked up. Damn you, Grissom.
Exactly
Buffy and Faith together that would have been great wouahhh but effectively except for all these tensions and these some messages subjective as in the episode where Faith draws a heart with an arrow on one of the windows of the class where is Buffy... there will be never a relation between them snif snif.
Kisses.
Jennyfer from Paris.
Oh hell yeah Faith & Buffy
Oh hell yeah Faith & Buffy where just dieing to stake each other.
-Nathiest
live for lust die for love
O.o
Fuffy all the way !
You're totally right ! There is more chemistry between Buffy and Faith than betwenn Buffy and Riley... (yuk). There is so much subtext there... you just have to look at all the fanfictions that have been written (and well written). My hard drive is full of them. So yeah Fuffy is my first love !
Then I can always go for some Alex/Olivia from SVU. Got a lot of them too...
I just have to say Breyton, because Brooke and Peyton... why did they fight about Lucas anyway. And it doesn't hurt that they're all touchy-feelywith each other.
And after watching WMC, I have to say that I'd love to see Lindsay and Jill hooking up...
And Veronica/Mac...
Basically, blonde/brunette does it for me... lol. But when we're talking chemistry and subtext, all I think about is Fuffy !
okay u just said my exact thoughts!
faith/buffy that's of course agiven! that's like the number one couple-not-couple that should have happened!
and same feelings here on brenan and angela. but i like bones and booth together two(like the only hetero couple i'd root for).
some others for me would be from resident evil 3 between Mila & Ali! that movie kicked ass and can u just imagine that?!
And of course Jordana Brewster and Michelle Rodriguez in Fast and Furious. just wishful thinking on my part
oh AND on BIONIC WOMAN!!!! damn.....my brain has been fried bc of the haitus and i can't remember names but u know what i'm talkin bout! mz bionic woman herself and blonde evil villian! tension could kill!
and on Las Vegas----Sam(vanessa marcil) and Piper. or Delinda. or Mary. or hell, all of em!
i would say something about charmed but dammit they have to be related :p but not in real life so it'd still be hott!
~*~Alice: Thank god you're here we're totally outnumbered. Bette: What do you mean? Alice: Straight people. Bette: Oh, Jesus.~*~
Oh yeah, Sam on LV
Its all about Buffy and
Its all about Buffy and Faith!! Don't try to tell me there wasn't something going on there!!
I also like to think there is something more than friendship between Kirsten and Julie on The OC. And Lana and Chloe on Smallville (they were never jealous of each other, they were jealous of Clark!) And Addison and Callie on Grey's... hehe! I read lesbian subtext in everywhere though!!
One tree hill
I would love to see the subtext of Peyton and Brooke... beacuse there is sooo very much of it... :) My girlfriend who just started watching the show and has become hooked asked me this past week if I think they will hook up... I laughed and was like.. I WISH! :)
¸.·´¯)It's true, we're all a little insane(¯`·.¸
right now I'm jonesin'
right now I'm jonesin' (wow, did I really just say that?) for some Zoe/Caitlin on 'Cashmere Mafia' - if it comes back. They seem to really care about each other the most, but maybe that's wishful thinking. It seems like Zoe and Juliet were made to be better friends, but I think that's just so Zoe's control freak tendencies could be put further on display, like I'm surprised Zoe wasn't in the first divorce proceedings btw Juliet and Davis too, lol, cause she set everything else up
I was so excited for this show, esp. when I found out one of the characters was going to be queer, but also because I just love women being romantic with each other and seeing that on TV, whether they're lovers or not. I'm a sucker for that old school mushy stuff, and the groundbreaking concept that women are friends with each other because they really do like/love each other and they're not just killing time together until some dude comes along, or friends because their boyfriends are, if they're straight or bi...
I totally saw the subext with Andy/Miranda...her bf, who she essentially leaves for Miranda even calls her on her 'relationship' with her boss. There's some EXCELLENT fanfiction out there for TDWP, astonishing in comparison to what else is typically out there.
During the first season 'Desperate Housewives' there was major vibage between Lynette (Felicity Huffman) and Bree (Marcia Cross)...but I think we all know how far down the drain that went...kinda like The L Word.
But I think my heart will always belong to a certain tough yet doe-eyed Detective and an icily beautiful blonde DA...*sigh*...love for the ages right there, yes ma'am.
"Cabenson"?
I'm with ya!
_ _ _ _ _
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." (Dr. Seuss)
Hells yeah!:)
Is there anything better
I've never been one for fanfiction, but the Cabenson stories were awesome! They were the greatest. I love Alex Cabot (Steph March) although she's a little old for me.
I don't think I've ever seen better chemistry between two characters who weren't actually dating.
ME TOO ;-)
At the time of Dawson's Creek, I would have wanted to see also a love relation between Joey and Jen. Oh and one of my the strongest wish that would have been to see Rachel and Monica in Friends go out together. OH MY GOD I hope that one day there will be a season special "Gay Friends" LOL :-)
THANK YOU Browne's.
BIG KISSES.
Jennyfer from Paris.
Me too!
Word
Robin wrote: I like Brennan/Angela from Bones. I mean, I love David Boreanaz, so I don't mind Brennan and him being all straight-couple-y, but her with Angela would be cuter. Just sayin'.
Kaytiana wrote: I also like to think there is something more than friendship between Kirsten and Julie on The OC. // And Addison and Callie on Grey's... hehe!
hotinthasheets wrote: But I think my heart will always belong to a certain tough yet doe-eyed Detective and an icily beautiful blonde DA...*sigh*...love for the ages right there, yes ma'am.
...and I agree! But I have to add Sara and Sofia. That would just have been so.. Umm.. So.. Just SO.. *drools*
My favourite...
sub-text-y video couple would have to be Captain Janeway and Seven of Nine from StarTrek Voyager...no shortage of sub-text-y moments to make into a video with those two!
And a good video would be anything made by Sazzy...
http://www.voyager-conspiracy.co.uk/Videos.html
best voyager vid
There are a lot of really good ones on that site, but I think this one is the all-time best/most hilarious J/7 subtext vid. It's from the same site, but here's the youtube link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ACuIEyVSfY
BTW, I totally saw the subtext between Miranda and both her assistants in Devil Wears Prada, even more so in some of the deleted scenes that are on the DVD.
Please!
any of the Star Trek women!!! All of them at the same time! I don't care, just as long as they exist!
:covets them all:
*squee*
*squee*
<3 ST:VOY
B'Elanna/Seven FTW!
- claymore -
J/7
Thesis
I’ve often thought that there’s a Ph.D. thesis to be written on the overarching effect of the internet on the gay and lesbian community.
I bet there's more than one eager gradstudent working on such a thesis as we speak...
- - - - - - - - - -
-Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
Who doesn't blog these days?
My favorite is and will
My favorite is and will always will be Sam and Brooke from Popular. God they were so gay for each other! And they do have a very good set of slashy videos going around on youtube. *sigh* Oh WB, CW or whatever the hell you are called now, why did you killed Popular? Why? WHY?!
Thank God for fanfics.
yes they were one of my
yes they were one of my favourites couples. And sleep well.
I'd vote for ...
Some Law & Order: SVU Olivia Benson/Alex Cabot action. Maybe not quite enough on-screen action between the two .... but damn.
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. [Mark Twain]
Olivia/ Alex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLCaShRoajs
if you're interested in seeing a/o vids go there, and really, just wantch anything SVU by Amybrooke, they're in my opinon the best SVU fan vids out there.
good luck.
I think
My favorite ones are Sam and Brooke from Popular, I thin I read all the existing fanfictions about them lol.
I also love Buffy/Faith, they would have been such a greater couple than Buffy/Angel or Buffy/Ryley (I kinda like Buffy/Spike...)
well, I see possible
well, I see possible lesbian couples everywhere, so you imagine how often I get frustrated! But my first passion for a TV character was 10 years ago, Teri Hatcher when she played Lois Lane. I loved her so muuuuch! I'm ok now!
But the friends that I enjoyed the most to become a couple were Jessie and Katie from Once and Again. It was such a well written and performed story.
i love fandom
and fanfic in particular, but I watch vids occasionally.
There are so many awesome fandoms and pairings that this is impossible!
I've been really impressed with the Buffy/Faith videos (this one is fun: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XP8s0JOAN-g). Serena/Blair, Brooke/Peyton, Haley/Peyton, the South of Nowhere girls have lots of great vids (and the actresses apparently watch them from time to time, which is awesome). Recently, Elle/Claire (Heroes) has been popping up, and that has been exciting. So has Cameron/Sarah from Terminator: The Sarah Connnor Chronicles. All in all, there's a great amount of subtexty and not so subtexty relationships featured. One of THE best videos I ever saw was Willow/Tara. And it was heartbreaking. http://youtube.com/watch?v=kHnGXBogx5w. The song used was Trouble by Coldplay.
I'd like to see more videos with Gwen and other ladies from Torchwood.
I think some of my favorite videos are those that create an alternative universe (AU), creating another story for some of the main characters. There are a number in the Buffy/Angel universe. But I don't have any examples off-hand unfortunately.
<3s fandom!
OK, You Read My Mind...
"Think Sideways"
One Tree Hill
Here, here! I'd love to see Brooke and Peyton from One Tree Hill. Hey they're both single now so... It'd also be cool if they brought Anna back. I love to see Anna and Peyton.
total fic junkie
Total fandom lurker though.
Yah, personally I prefer Emily/Andrea myself, but there's like a hardcore Miranda/Andrea cadre on LJ pumping out the most amazing fic for them, which pretty much influences the fandom. As long as it's good, I'm seriously not complaining.
Other than that, I see subtext everywhere. I mean everywhere. I go to an all girls school, every day is like femslash central, lol. I have been quite looking forward to Elle/Claire (Heroes) fic lately, which is odd, considering the fact that I've seen a single episode of Heroes ever, but I like the fic. And I have the most awesome-est crack!fic pairing ever, which is Lorelai/Alex (Gilmore Girls/L&O:SVU Crossover) which shouldn't work, but strangely does. (wizened_cynic on lj and I srsly have to stop pimping her out to everyone and sundry.)
Also, Emily/JJ from Criminal Minds are like, love. Other than that, I'll read/watch pretty much whatever's going if it's good.
As a P.S.
"Think Sideways"
Uh, helllllllo!!
Xena anyone? There are some schweet subtext videos for the princesses of subtext ^_^ Personally, I always thought Callisto should have seduced both Gabrielle and Xena. She was so hot.
You're right...
"Think Sideways"
Buffy and Faith
Definitely Buffy and Faith....they belong together.....hahaha........
Or buffy and willow actually....that would be an interesting pair........
The Homo Goddess
buffy/faith
I think these are some of the best vids I have seen because there is simply so much to work with. That heart-on-the-window thing, and them dancing together? Priceless. Alex/Olivia comes a close second. I saw a good Sara/Sofia one once (CSI). I'm more of a fanfiction girl myself though, just because you can do so much more with that.
I don't even consider Xena/Gabrielle subtext by the end of the show. So I count them in with Willow/Tara, Spashley, Catilin/Alicia, etc.
Buffy and Willow
BROOKE AND PEYTON are my
BROOKE AND PEYTON are my very favorite. They just... are together. I dont care what the actual storyline says lol. I am known for my femslash pairings. my other favorites are Callie and Addison from Grey's Anatomy and Mac and Veronica from Veronica Mars.
I have to say it..... there is a "fan video" community ...not on youtube.. that is incredible. The quality of fan vids on youtube... is pretty terrible. If you like femslash vids I recommend the following. They are some of my very favorites.
Buffy/Faith - by my girlfriend Aimee :) You dont find a better buffy/faith video out there. I promise. (and i'm not just saying that because the vidder happens to be my girlfriend)
http://aimee.inner-demons.org/tourniquet.php
Mac/Veronica by Leanna
http://divinesarcasm.imeem.com/video/PC2MOJNL/leanna_httpgracefulillusionsabsolutevertigoorg_one/
Buffy/Willow by Elisha Maire
http://elishamarie.imeem.com/video/VfhEKc3m/elisha_marie_buffy_and_willow_its_only_love_music_video/
and lastly.. I hate self plugging but i made this one.. Its Brooke & Peyton of course. :) I'm only linking it because I saw all the other Breyton people in this post *shy
http://kate-simpleruse.imeem.com/video/3UgcK8Th/katie_phobic_tv_video/
Or if you like to download them
http://simple-ruse.org/ivids.php
I totally agree with you!
Your Breyton video totally pwns
Thanks Katie...
"Think Sideways"
I couldnt agree more!
Jo and Blair + Sam and Brooke
from The Facts of Life and Popular
lots of sexual tension masked with hate
"Even in his heart the devil has to know the water level."
Kate and Juliet
... from LOST. Not sure if it would work, but I can dream, right?
I also second Benson and Cabot from SVU. I still love the show, it just wasn't the same once Cabot left.
Only watch OTH a few times and never thought of that pairing, but I watched a video and I can see it. Now I'm interested in that story line.
Bionic woman and Women's murder Club
There are some really sweet ones about Jaime/Sarah on BW and Lindsay/Cindy on WMC that I enjoy watching
...a kiss from a woman is always sweeter...
Brook & Racheal from last
Brooke & Racheal from last season of One Tree Hill.
-Nathiest
live for lust die for love
I'm a sucker for the classic Spashley
Firefly.
a friend of mine Elisha did
oh!! a friend of mine Elisha did a vid for them :) you can find it on this page if you scroll down a bit
http://nummy-treat.com/otvids.php