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Can Pixar make a movie with a girl who isn't a princess?

If you haven’t already stumbled across the letter from NPR's Linda Holmes to Pixar, read it now. It’s worth a few minutes of your time.

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Wasn’t that worth it?

I love the tone of “Dear Pixar, From All The Girls With Band-Aids On Their Knees” and I wholeheartedly second its message. Fundamentally, Holmes thinks Pixar movies are great, but that doesn’t mean she’s willing to give them a pass for being all about the boys. And so I echo her plaintive request to the powers-that-be at Pixar:

Please make a movie about a girl who is not a princess.

Holmes lays out the history quite simply:

Of the ten movies you've released so far, ten of them have central characters who are boys or men, or who are anthropomorphized animals or robots or bugs who are voiced by and imagined as boys or men. These movies feature women and girls to varying degrees ­— The Incredibles, in particular — but the story is never "a girl and the things that happen to her," the way it's "a boy and what happens to him."

Now, I love many of the girls in the Pixar movies. Helen Parr (a.k.a. Elastigirl) in The Incredibles kicks ass and, except for the whole stretching thing, has a quasi-realistic woman’s body.

Plus the daughter, Violet, is voiced by the inimitable Sarah Vowell.

Whenever I watch Finding Nemo, Dory is the character who stays with me.

For days afterward, I keep repeating, “Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming.”

And I’m moved when Jessie, in Toy Story 2, laments her broken heart to the strains of the lesbian-sounding “When She Loved Me.”

But, like, Holmes, I want to see girls who don’t just support and take car of the boys.

The next two releases, Toy Story 3 and Newt, are likely to be more of the same. But number 13, The Bear and the Bow, will star Reese Witherspoon as a princess who wants to abdicate her crown to become an archer. (Emma Thompson and Julie Walters have also been cast as the queen and the witch, respectively.)

So we’ll finally have a girl — and an amazing cast — but, in the Disney mold, she’ll be a princess. Holmes sums up the princess-problem quite well.

Well, the…world has a lot of little girls in it, too. And not all of them are princesses — and the ones who are princesses have plenty of movies to watch.

And even many of them who do aspire to be princesses are mixing their princess tendencies with all manner of other delicious things. Their tiaras fall off when they skin their knees running at top speed; they get fingerpaint on their pink dresses; they chip their front teeth chasing each other in plastic high-heeled shoes.

There's nothing wrong with the movies you're making ... I'm just saying, keep them in mind, those girls in Band-Aids, because they want to see themselves on screen doing death-defying stunts, too.

Some of us will certainly identify with a girl who’d rather be an archer than a princess. But many of us might prefer to identify with a girl who was a fish or an ant or a monster — or just a girl in search of adventure. But as a blogger who is much less patient with Pixar than Holmes is notes, “male is neutral and female is particular.”

In other words, the default protagonist is male. If she’s female, it’s because there’s something about the character that requires her to be so. And that’s what Holmes (and I) would like to see change.

Nevertheless, I’m glad that Holmes wrote the letter that she did rather than a “Dear Pixar, you’re sexist and you suck” letter. I certainly understand how what’s not in a movie could undermine or overwhelm what is there. But sometimes I just want to enjoy what’s good while noting what could be better.

What do you think? How bothered are you by the representation of women in Pixar movies? And where do you stand on the princess issue?

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  • Evolving's picture

    She makes valid points it

    She makes valid points it would be nice to see a girl starring in a pixar movie. I'm not so much bothered because I really haven't watch all of the pixar movies but since it was brought to my attention it is quite concerning. 
    Traci's picture

    Never really thought about it

    But there is a lot of truth to it. There aren't a lot of main female protaganists. Personally I Love Pixar movies and the lack of a main female character hasn't necessarily affected my overall enjoyment of them. But I think that if Pixar were to make a movie staring a non-princess female... I would love them all the more. It's an issue that is definitely worth bringing up. I also think it's a good idea for a company with mainly children as their demographic to provide an image of women that little girls can look up to. Not the usual princess or side character. It would inspire them to feel more capable.
    claire's picture

    I couldn't agree more

    I saw Up a couple of days ago, and I really enjoyed it, but I did leave wondering where the female protagonists are in Pixar movies. (The Incredibles had the best female characters/presence of the Pixar films I've seen, but they were still secondary characters.) I'm tired of hearing "girls will see boy movies, but boys won't see girl movies." My patience is wearing out with the boy movies.

    I'm psyched to hear that Pixar has a movie with a female lead in its pipeline, but it is disappointing that it's about a princess when that is already the focus of most of the kid movies with female leads. Actually, none come to mind that aren't about princesses. I'm sure I'll love The Bear and the Bow because Pixar really knows how to tell great stories. I just hope that they will continue to make more films that feature female protagonists.

    JK_Singer's picture

    BEST.LETTER.EVER

    This has got to be my favourite post, like, ever.

    I was beginning to feel slightly alone in my 'why-can't-you-see-feminism-is-more-than-missing-bras' camp. See, whenever I watch a film, any film, my first comment is "well... *followed by a rant about why there are only two female characters in Kung Fu Panda etc*", and my friends are pretty tired of this. So imagine my delight when I read this post! 

    It’s a problem that women have lesser incomes. It’s a problem that there aren’t more women in leading positions. It’s a problem that we are underrepresented in the media. And it’s a huge problem that the general public doesn’t recognize why.

    “Male is neutral and female is particular.” - That is precisely the core of the matter! We do not have equality until that has changed.

    Signed, someone whose favourite film is Finding Nemo

     

     

    "Even in death Gabrielle, I will never leave you"- Xena

    jaydock's picture

    We seem to be very similar!

    We seem to be very similar!

    I completely ditto your entire post. I never mean to sound angry, but it gets kind of frustrating when women are SO marginalized in almost everything in society. Which makes absolutely no sense, since we make up half of the global population!

     This letter was really great because it pointed that out without sounding angry - something I'm not very good at.

    mireika's picture

    Does...

    Does EVE count?

    I guess "she's" not the title character but still... she was a major factor in the movie.

    ShadowTiger's picture

    This is something i think about everyday

    I am actually disgusted on the most part by this issue, and its not just Pixar either.

    I decided not to post my rant about all of the stereotypes that can be found in movies like The Incredibles, but suffice to say that there are dozens that portray women as emotional, social, and inferior beings who support and rely on the male figures. I think that as long as women are secondary characters, objectified characters, stereotypical characters then negative images of women will be propogated.

    I think that pixar movies, while fun to watch (especially Wall-E), are equally frustrating because of these problems.

    I expect that the Princess will be fighting against an evil witch, and that she will be brash and impetuous, often making mistakes because of her hot temper. Her companions will help her calm down and make intelligent decisions that help them save the day. She will be saved by the bear several times, perhaps even in the final battle. Apparently she is going to be the mother figure for her brothers, strengthening those stereotypes even more. At least she will be using a bow... hopefully she will be a little like robin hood (and hook up with a princess :p )

    VeeMachi's picture

    Since I doubt very much it

    Since I doubt very much it will get mentioned, I should point out the up comming short film Durian. It's next open movie to be produced by the Blender Foundation.

    Here's some concept art of the main characer, Durian:

    For those who don't know what the Blender Foundation is, here's a not-so-quick bit of history...
    A while back in 1995, Not a Number Technologies produced 3D animation software called Blender 3D on for an animation company NeoGeo. A guy named Ton Roosendaal did most of the work. When NaN went belly up, the creditors agreed to release the software as freeware if they were paid $100,000 US. Roosendall started collection donations to get it freed, and in 2002 blenders source code became open source software.

    Around this newly freed software a non-profit organization was founded by it's liberator called the Blender Foundation. The purpose of this organization was two-fold. Firstly, to continue development of the software and allow the world free access to it's features and source code. Secondly, to produce media showing off what blender could do.

    After many updates, in 2004 the Blender Foundation produced it's first open film, Elephants Dream, which can be watched for free online. This garnered the software much attention and support which allowed blender to go through some major upgrades over the next few years.

    In 2007 progress started on their next film, Big Buck Bunny. Buck Bunny was about an abnormally large rabbit that seeks revenge against fellow rodents who start to pick on him.It was released in 2008, and won two awards in the Holland Animation Film Festival. As with ED and the Blender Software used to make it, it also can also be found online for free.
    Now that the recap's over, I can get to the point. The Blender foundation has started work on their next next film Durian. Like it's predecessors, it will be available for free online, and it will likely be ten minutes long. As it is still in the planning stages, there isn't much information in it yet. Details can be found on the project's blog as they become available.

    What we do know is that it will be "an epic fantasy theme with lots of action, monsters and a girl hero."

    Blender has been used for the production of commercials, by movie studios, and for television as well. Blender can also be used to make video Games as well. So far the two big ones are Yo Frankie! produced by the Blender Foundation (and thus can be downloaded for free) and Project Aftershock.
    atmtkp's picture

    A question

    So I'm going to ask the question that nobody has asked and would be interested in the answer...what would a non-princess female character look like?
    michele emily's picture

    Probably...

    Good question.  I imagine she would probably look like Young Ellie from UP. She was a tomboy, loved adventure, had a vivid imagination and missing teeth and dirt on her face from playing outside...

    You can see a picture of her here:  http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GsJ0PZjfZPw/SidXo0pw19I/AAAAAAAACYM/UIiNfNv8Ho...

    I would just post an image in the comment, but it's a huge picture.

    Polyester Queen's picture

    Yeah, but....

    Why does "good/strong female character" so often have to equal tomboy?
    Lara Jean's picture

    Hmm...

    Like me or you... or Lilo and Nani, or Gigantica, or a girl scout, or a zebra that wants to break out of a zoo and go home to Madagascar, or Tank Girl... I think the sky is the limit. :)

     

    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." ~Dr. Seuss, The Lorax

    Ace's picture

    A Bug's Life

    I read a couple of articles/blog posts that noted that "A Bug's Life" ignored ant gender roles to make Flik male. So a female character could reasonably look something like Flik, just with a different voice.

     

    pahke's picture

    never thought about that

    never thought about that before, i guess male is neutral. but now, it bugs me.
    spacie's picture

    spacie

    True. But funny how Pixar always has male leads but Disney has kinda come under fire for not having enough show for boys (with the whole Hannah Motnana thing, et al).
    Kay's picture

    That's exactly what I

    That's exactly what I thought after I saw Up last night. I mean I enjoy the movie a lot. I was in tears most of time during the movie. I know I am lame. But I really envy the relationship: to marry your best friend, you have similar interest and goal...blah blah blah... But i wonder why it always has to be about a lil boy/ or  guy adventure.

    I mean i was pleasantly surprised that Russell is a Asian boy and it's not a big part of the movie. But it won't hurt that they have a lil Asian girl scout that needs to help an elderly too! And maybe it'd echo with Ellie's character more... I know usually male is neutral, but why can't female be the default sex?! This kind of questions make me upset.

    I'm a long time Disney and Pixer fan. I've always wanna be the protagonist in the movie. And my parent, my friends would think I always want to be the prince or be a boy. But i don't really like to be a prince or a boy. i love being a girl. I just wanted the spotlight and have the adventure, instead of the one that need to be rescue or just sit around and do nothing or help the prince or the main character. i hated the stereotype then and i still resent it now. If girl characters or princesses were the protagonists and get all the adventures.  I have no problem kicking ass in a dress.

    (maybe not in a dress...lol)

    atmtkp's picture

    I could be wrong..

    If this does pan out to be a big issue for pixar I wouldn't be surprised if in the face of opposition instead of using their creativity to open up more main characters they create a character with all types negative stereotypes of being unattractive or searching for a man-think mulan but the reason for joining would be just to get a man and not to prove that she was just as good as the guys...I could be wrong but I know that people can be stubborn and if they real they are being bullied into something can have a tongue-in-cheek way about their final products.