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You never forget your first: Which lesbian film was important to you?

Last Saturday night, while I was forgetting to record Tina Fey on SNL, a friend of mine excitedly told me that she's finally going to see the movie Personal Best when it airs on Logo (AfterEllen.com's parent company) Wednesday morning.

My friend has seen plenty of lesbian movies — we've seen about a zillion together — but this one is rarely on TV and was only recently released on DVD, so she's never managed to see it. And there are a number of reasons to see Personal Best. It's Mariel Hemingway's first lesbian role — and, for a straight woman, she's played a lot of lesbian roles.

It's also a great sports movie, and provides an interesting glimpse back at the Olympic Trials gearing up to the 1980 Summer Olympics. But most important, it was a watershed lesbian/bisexual movie. For many of us who were first struggling to come out in the '80s, it was the only mainstream lesbian or bisexual movie on our radar.

Although I plan to record it on Wednesday, I've already seen Personal Best. In fact, I've seen it several times, but I certainly recall the first. (And my poor mother probably recalls it, too.) It was 1986. I was 17, intensely drawn to all things lesbian and desperately trying to convince myself that this fixation didn't mean anything significant. (Turns out, it did.) I was determined to watch Personal Best when I saw it listed, but due to the, um, adult-oriented channel that it was on and the specifics of when I would watch, I could not be as discreet as I would have liked. So I gave my mother some long-forgotten, probably really stupid and transparent reason for wanting to see it, and I watched. And my liberal mother, who already feared that I would tell her the things I told her a few years later, did not try to prevent me. But she was clearly not happy about it. And that is the story of my first lesbian movie.

The other '80s lesbian movie that was important to many lesbians my age was, of course, Desert Hearts.

I surreptitiously rented this one while home from college and, this time, I knew exactly why I wanted to watch it. And I didn't want anyone to know I was watching it. So I hid it, watched when no one else was home, watched one scene several more times, and then hid the movie and returned it when no one was looking.

But as important as both of these movies were to my nascent lesbian self-awareness, I experienced my most important lesbian movie moment in a non-lesbian movie, Bright Lights, Big City.

A few months before furtively watching Desert Hearts, I was at the movies, holding hands with the guy I was dating, watching Michael J. Fox snort lines of coke with a couple of girls at a club — when my spidey-sense began to tingle. Fox's character went searching for his new acquaintances, barged in on them kissing in a bathroom stall and, BAM, I was alert. And really, really aware that I did not want to be holding hands with the boy sitting next to me. (I didn't really want to make out with coked-up girls in bathroom stalls, either ... but that was certainly closer to what I wanted.) I didn't come out because of Bright Lights, but that moment, coupled with a handful of other epiphanies, led me to come out a few months later.

And that is my ramble down memory lane. There were many more lesbian movies and lesbian movie moments in subsequent years, but none were quite as poignant or tortured or memorable as the first.

So, if you have access to the Logo channel and have never seen Personal Best, check it out at 8:30 Wednesday morning. And in the meantime, what were your important lesbian movies and lesbian movie moments?

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  • lkier's picture

    Ah, movies

    Desert Hearts
    Lianna
    Late Bloomers
    fairly butch's picture

    Desert Hearts

    picture the scene: 1987 in Glasgow and me, a very curious (in an arms' length, anthropological kinda way) 18-year-old who had read that a film called 'Desert Hearts' was going to be playing in the local cinema.  i justified to myself that since it had been named as 'Film Of The Month' in Film Review magazine, i was going to see it for purely cinematic reasons; the truth was that i went in confused, and came out a lesbian.

    having watched the story unfold, i just knew that this was my emotional interior landscape being played out on the screen.  when Cay instructed Vivian to roll the car window "all the way down", i was having an internal dialogue with myself - oh God, she's going to kiss her - and oh God, you really want her to!  looking back, of course i'd been drawn to all things Sapphic from an early age - the hint at age 2 when i asked for a football for my third birthday might just have been a precursor to my tomboy years - and so it wasn't really a huge surprise that it affected me so much. 

     but i still thank Donna Deitch from the bottom of my heart for making that film - and, as a small aside, would beg her never to make a sequel:  she'd never get it right, because for every single person who's seen 'Desert Hearts', they've all got their own idea of what happened next....

    chanticorae's picture

    without a doubt

    lianna, it very first time i saw lesbian relationships. i was complete fascinated.
    TheWeyrd1's picture

    Lianna...yes...though somewhat depressing...

    and actually Making Love. I know it's a gay boy's movie of the same era, but my best college buddy was a gay guy who was coming out when I was coming out, so we commiserated over this one (it also had Kate Jackson, so what's not to like?). We would drive to the local gay nightclub reciting the lines: "Why don't you just say it?" & "I'm gay." We had to practice this alot you see. Lianna, on the other hand was more private for me and somewhat depressing. The lesbian bar that she went to was VERY similar to the one I went to in college. And watching it recently on LOGO did nothing from my 20 plus years older perspective to change the depressing perception of lesbian life. Thankfully, some things in life have change!

    UPDATE regarding Personal Best which recently aired on LOGO. WHAT A RIP OFF. They totally cut the love scene out, in it's entirety. I realize LOGO advertizing supported, but they could have blurred part of the scene that involved nudity. But no, they completely excised it to the point that they went to a commercial after a tentative kinda playful kiss and when the movie resumed it was an entirely different scene on a different day (could have been a different year for all I can remember). Further, other scenes looked a bit chopped too and yet the running time WITH commercials was 2.5 hours!!! Shoot, they could have spared everyone the misery by cutting it down to 2 hours or better, just not even bother showing it. To think I pay extra to the the group of channels that includes LOGO (and I watch none of the rest). Hrrrmmmpphhhhttt!

    Ace14's picture

    Ugh

    I haven't had time to watch it yet. How depressing!
    afinefrenzy's picture

    lost and delirious. i

    lost and delirious.

    i didn't know what was so different about me until i saw it on HBO one night when i was 11. now i looooove that movie!

    Nelfy's picture

    gia - mind-blowing first

    I had seen a few glimpses of lesbians on tv/film and was already somewhat out when I saw gia. I traveled to canada with my parents and I just knew that I had to buy that dvd somewhere, so I literally asked in every store that sold dvds whether they had gia. finally, I found it in a store in vancouver and couldn't wait to watch it. so, when I came home, first thing I did when my parents weren't at home was watch it. I completly loved it and that sex scene was just amazing. these two beautiful woman together made my head spin. I still love the movie, even though it is very sad, but it somehow really convinced me that that was all I ever wanted to experience. except for the drugs. 

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    nepa's picture

    ...exactly

    Gia was the first and only. After watching this movie I was temporarily out of my mind, I finally got the basic and the sense of all that mess in me and I finally saw its love what means a thing not a gender.
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    I have been a Stockard

    I have been a Stockard Channing fan since I was twelve (Rizzo anyone? Gees), so consciously I thought "hey, I'll watch her new Lifetime move" but my subconscious obviously had ulterior motives because after watching The Truth About Jane I started to cry because I finally realized that the feelings I had for the 3rd baseman of my softball team was actually a crush and I understood what all my friends felt when they daydreamed about Brad Pitt.

    You'd have thought I could have caught on with the softball and my love of the Indigo Girls, but no... it took a Lifetime movie. 

    JuliaG's picture

    Interesting topic

    My first lesbian movie was The Truth About Jane too. I was 14, I think, and I couldn't stop thinking about it for months after that. It was the first time that I dared to think that maybe being gay wasn't so bad after all, and maybe I'd be okay if it wasn't just a phase.

    Some time after that I got to see Willow and Tara on Buffy, and from then it was just a matter of time until I figured it all out properly :)

     

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    i agree

    “The truth about Jane” OMG it was the first lesbian content movie I ever watched and I remember thinking how did Jane get in my head like that! She was speaking aloud all I had thought for months. That movie showed me it was ok to be gay, and as lame as I sound, what it was really. I knew before then I was different, but I couldn’t put my finger on it. After Jane I knew for sure. I was however scared by the way Stockard Channing’s character reacted, so I vowed right then and there never to tell my mother. You know kinda like from “Girl play” also a brilliant movie that I identify with.

     

     

     

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    daisy_0144's picture

    Yep.

    Truth about Jane. Watched it before I came out to my parents.
    dilettante's picture

    I remember my first, but my second

    probably changed my life. My first: The Children's Hour. I was twelve years old and my mother let me stay up to watch "The Late Show." I'm not sure that she knew the movie beforehand, but she didn't change the channel or make me go to bed. I fell asleep just after the trial verdict. The next day, when I asked my mom what had happened, she told me that Shirley MacLaine's character had killed herself. When I asked why she had to do that when it was all a lie, my mom -- bless her -- said "She shouldn't have had to do it even if it had been the truth. But it's probably better that you not talk about the movie at school today." (Catholic grade school -- smart mom.)

    My second: The War Widow, first shown on PBS in 1976. It's a lovely, quiet film, set at the turn of the 20th century -- and it had a happy ending! I was a little more clued in by this point and I've never forgotten it. If you want to know more: http://www.planetout.com/popcornq/db/getfilm.html?802

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    Wow! Your Mother. I love her!

    I watched The Children's Hour, alone, while babysitting.  I was probably about 13 or 14 yrs old.  I was confused, horrified, and had no one to ask about it.  How lucky you are!

     

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    Mulholland Drive.

    It made crap sense, but it helped me figure some things out. 

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    Oh yeah...Mulholland Dr.!

    Mulholland Dr. definately! I cannot praise this film enough... it's simply amazing....

    I watched it when i was 18 and for the first time i thought about the possibility of me being queer... i guess being more interested in watching two women have sex than paying attention to your boyfriend is a pretty BIG pointer that maybe you're not that straight...eh

     

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    Mulholland Drive

    I grab every opportunity to hail David Lynch, he's my hero =)

    Mulholland Drive is my favourite movie, and the lesbian relationship only added to that. When I saw those women together, I was like 'Yeah. This is how it's supposed to be.' 
     

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    Klytaemnestra's picture

    first for two

    all over me was my first for girl likes girl and girl likes punk rock and hello leisha hailey, see you again in a few years: )

     

    invisiblegrrrl's picture

    It was my first too, and I

    It was my first too, and I remember going online after watching it and looking for Leisha Hailey sites and finding NOTHING. How that's changed....
    mddrugger's picture

    Not exactly the first but...

    Definitely the biggest one. All Over Me really hit home because I was the overweight teen in love with her crazy (sans drugs) best friend. I just wished that I got to kiss her some too... would've been worth it to me then even if she was thinking about a guy.

    Man you couldn't make me be a teenager again for a million dollars....

    I also thought the girl who played Claude and cute little pink haired Leisha Hailey were so hot. I think my very first "computer search" had something to do with those two. Oh the late '90's...

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    Wild Side

    Wild Side

    I'm not sure if this one counts as a lesbian movie and it's definitely not a good movie but after watching it I thought about it and after a few minutes I realized that I'm gay :-)

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    ah, Wild Things

    Wild Things when I was in 9th grade. It might have been 10th.

     

    Either way, it made me forever love Neve Campbell no matter what. Suzie was basically the hottest person ever, and I adore the pool scene because of its intensity. Plus, she was smarter than everyone else.

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    my first was better than

    my first was better than chocolate when i was about 14. i had no idea it was a lesbian film i just sumbled upon it whilst channel surfing. i was pretty shocked to be honest. but only later i figured out thats because it was so confronting to me and at the time i didnt realise it. 

     

     

     

     

     

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    FIRE (1996), written & directed by Deepa Mehta

    I really loved this movie-- my gf showed it to me during her not-so-subtle courtship/flirtation phase. It's part of a trilogy of flims ( the other two are WATER and EARTH, of course), but Fire will always have my heart...

    http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/30/fire.html

     

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    Desert Hearts

    Blockbuster - senior year of college.  Drawn to what they dubbed the 'Special Interest' section.  I, as quickly as possible, glanced at the titles and covers and glancing over my shoulder the whole time fearing someone I knew would walk in.  Not wanting to take my time I grabbed the first cover that had two women on it and tried to walk casually to the checkout - the irony of having a copy of Silence of Lambs as my "cover-up" movie was lost on me that day.  A few months later my frequent viewing of Jodie Foster in Stealing Home finally became VERY clear and the irony was no longer lost.
    frosted_fraggle's picture

    The first lesbian movie I ever watched

    was Incredibly True Adventure of Two Girls In Love. How I adored Randy Dean ... That movie truely changed my life (I even went out and got me some Walt Whitman poetry books so in awe was I).

    Better Than Chocolate got me through my first break-up. I watched it every night for weeks just to make me feel better.

    gpawlf's picture

    me too

    this the first video i saw as well...I'm pretty sure I rented Two Girls in Love, Go Fish and Claire of the Moon at the same time at the local Blockbuster the summer between freshman and sophomore year of college. Randy Dean was awesome! Of the bunch, it was the one that most relevant to me at the time. I still love it. Every now and again I have to get my 2Girls fix...
    mddrugger's picture

    I was too embarased...

    To get TITATGIL at the Blockbuster, I stuck to more vague lesbian rental titles.  Atleast one could pretend the Desert Hearts was about heteros getting it on in Arizona.

    You're much braver than I to have even watched it. I finally saw it in college and I've been waiting to encorporate Walt Whitman into my seduction technique ever since.

    Bluestcrytsky's picture

    Trip down memory lane

    My first lesbian thing I saw in the media was of this girl's story in seventeen or some equivalent magazine. It was a basic sob story with a happy ending. Even since then I feel like I have seen a change in the way lgbt media can be played, because it was the whole hook of the article, this girl is gay, I don't think that would work anymore.

    Anyways to movies. I think the first movie I saw was But I'm a cheerleader. Maybe before that was Boys don't cry, but that isn't entirly a lesbian movie.

    My first book would be Kissing Kate, awh the memories, I rerember crying with the main character's woes.

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    Personal Best

    I had never been to the movies by myself before, but I went three times to see Patrice Donnelly.  It would still be 10+ years, a marriage and kids before I realized why I had to see that movie again and again, but I never forgot it.  And when I did finally begin to understand myself, Personal Best was where I turned to feel okay about it. 

    And how sweet is my wife?  She just gave me the DVD for Valentine's Day.  :-) 

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    The Hours

    The scene in The Hours where Julianne Moore kisses that other woman caused some stirrings in my fifteen-year-old self that I didn't begin to understand until a year later. I just knew that that movie made me feel moved and unsettled, not in an entirely unpleasant way.

    Z3C's picture

    Finally

    I thought no one was going to mention this one.  Its not really billed as a lesbian movie, but how much more lesbian can you get?  It was my first and I guess I was about 17/18 when I saw it. 

    Funny because now that I think about it it was my mother who rented the movie.  She hadn't watched it, so one night I put it on and lo and behold my mother walks in just as Julianne Moore kissed her neighbor.  I was intensly interested and then my mother ruined it by saying "Oh god" and walking out of the room in disgust.  A little foreshadowing as to how she would take my coming out a few years later?  Yeah...

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    Claire of the Moon

    It was so bad, but it was my first so...Well, it was still bad.

    I still have not recovered. :-/ 

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    Watch it again when you're 40ish

    I thought it was a badly edited movie and weird story when I first saw it in my late 20's. Turns out I could related much better when I was the age of most of the characters...lol...go figure. And then it was better.
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    Haha!

    It was totally and completely cheesy.

    We totally memorised lines from it and would sarcastically say them to each other in like the checkout line at the store or wherever.

    Which in retrospect could have easily hurt some folks feelings, since it was filmed here in Oregon, and it's quite possible the person behind me in the checkout line was a production manager or actor or something and had worked on the film. Heh.

    And, no, the film hasn't gotten any better with age I don't think. Makes me giggle just thinking about it now....*snort*

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    Show Me Love

    I'm young, come from a liberal family, and live in a country where being gay isn't really a big deal. I was fully aware from an early age that yes, some people are gay and that's perfectly normal - so the first lesbian movie that was important to me wasn't because it was a lesbian movie... it was just a good movie. I was around 14 when I saw Show Me Love (which was a VERY mainstream film here, and I'm sure most kids my age saw it that summer). It WAS the first time I'd seen - or heard of - girls MY age being lesbians, though. It didn't ring many bells at the time - I was just fascinated by it.

    A few years later I found Lost & Delirious at the local video store. I convinced my friends to rent it and I swear I held my breath for the entire movie. I still don't know how I managed to spend the next couple of years oblivious to the fact that I was gay.

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    Show Me Love

    I was probably around 15 when I saw it and it was just around the time when I was starting to figure things out. The movie was obviously a big hit here in Sweden and everyone saw that movie. And while the lesbian storyline probably spoke more to me than to most of my friends, everyone liked it because it's a good movie about what it's like to grow up in a small town in Sweden.
    imthey's picture

    So many movies...

    I'm trying to remember my "first" lesbian film that I saw... I think it was likely Lianna and/or Desert Hearts. I do remember that it didn't take long for me to be like Alex from It's In the Water-finding every movie I could that had any lesbian storyline in it or any TV show with lesbian characters in it and I would rent it or even more likely buy it and watch it over and over again until the videotape wore out. 
     
    A few of the early movies I saw were ones that I believe first aired on TV, such as A Question of Love with Gena Rowlands and Jane Alexander or By Design with Patty Duke and Sara Botsford or Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit with Charlotte Coleman.  
     
    I can also recall with some fondness movies like Sotto Sotto by Lina Wertmüller and Secret Places starring the lovely Marie-Theres Relin as well as the far more depressing movies (even though they still made an impact) like The Children's Hour with Audrey Hepburn and Shirley McLaine or Mädchen in Uniform before that or even one of the very first Pandora's Box.
     
    I'm glad we have so much more to choose from since the "early days" even though we certainly still have a long way to go.  I'd love to see a time when I don't have to sit through every movie I love (or tv show) and use subtext to make me happy (and trust me I read subtext into way too many movies and tv shows).  
     

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    Sotto sotto!

    I loved that movie.  It was so funny.
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    But I'm a Cheerleader

    I went to rural Minnesota schools all of my life, until I trasfered to a boarding arts school near the Twin Cities. Here I found my first GSA; I didn't join, but I went to the events. One of these events was a showing of But I'm a Cheerleader and another film. It was the first time I had gotten to see a lesbian relationship (and the focal relationship at that) on the big screen.

    It probably would have had a greater impact on me if Willow and Tara (of Buffy) hadn't already been active members of my small screen family for some time.

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    Bound

    Surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet.

    Terrific neo-noir flick, and Gershon and Tilly were smokin'.

     

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    Sharon Greenfield's picture

    Stands the test of time

    Yeah, Tilly and Gershon's performances still hold it 10 yrs later. And the dialogue and plot are still superb (thanks Warshowkis!) This is a truly fun flick.
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    I've never met anyone else that's seen this movie-

    Does anyone here know about Nadja? It's a black-and-white indie Dracula remake. Made and set in the 1990's (94, I think.) It focuses on the title character, who is supposed to be his daughter. Her role is the story is pretty much the same as the count's in the original novel, including the falling for and seducing Lucy part. It sounds tacky, but it's actually really beautiful. And seeing the way Nadja loves Lucy- completely obsessive, but so gentle and adoring compared to Lucy's husband- really rang a bell for me. I came across it by accident (I think I was about 12 at the time) and it instantly became my favorite movie. I forced both my mom and my best friend (the girl I was rapidly falling in love with) to sit down and watch it at various points. (They were kind of bored with it, since it's a very slow moving film. But on the bright side, when I worked up the courage to tell my friend how I felt, she felt the same, which was great.) And that's the story of how a snooty low-budget indie film made my world a better place.

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    "Show Me Love"

    Legs shaking when I walked out of that theatre. Scaaaary experience, like someone was spying on me.
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    my movie

    When Night Is Falling. I crawled to the tv, to touch the freaking screen when it was over. It had come on late night when I was maybe, 16...i had to watch it very quietly as not to wake the fam.

    Runner up, Bound.

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    All of them were significant...

    I came out in 1980, so for me, "Lianna", "Desert Hearts" and "Personal Best" were my watershed lesbian films.  Watching those films now really makes me feel old and jaded, but they sure do bring back a lot of fond memories too, like what it was like to be young and free in San Francisco in the 80s.  What a great time that was.  "The L Word" and "Exes and Ohs" are good in their own ways, but they don't come close to what being a lesbian was like back then.

     

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    Yep.

    Gia.

    I have always been attracted to men (wait, keep reading!) but that movie made me realize that I couldn't ignore how I felt about women. It was just too powerful. So I have a special place in my heart for Angie (don't we all?) the woman who taught me what bisexuality was.

     

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    DS9

    I grew up in a very homophobic family, so I didn't get to watch any of the landmark lesbian films until I left home. The first movie that made me really realize that my attraction to women was based on more than admiration was True Lies... with the striptease scene.

    I also remember watching the episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine wherein Dax is reunited with her former wife. I was intrigued, turned on, and inevitably moved to tears by the storyline. No one in my family understood. All they could say was "Why did they have to make it two women?"

    In later seasons, when they tapped into the alternate universe where Major Kira made out with all the other women in the cast, I was afraid my parents would veto the series, but they never did. I don't think they had any idea how much I got into the show.

    More recently, I have to say that Better Than Chocolate is one of my all-time favorites. It's a sweet love story with just the right amount of parental and political conflict... Not to mention Peter Outerbridge who I adore as "Not a F**king Drag Queen".

    I'm ashamed that I've yet to see Personal Best and Desert Hearts, though they are very near to the top of my "Rent Next!" list.

     

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    But I'm A Cheerleader

    Here I thought it was going to be a cute chick flick and it just totally knocked me on my ass...its not the best lesbian movie but its my first=)
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    Bound

    I was 15, my parents were away for the weekend, so I invited my best friend (the only person I'd come out to at the time) and we rented Bound, completely at random, because it was the first lesbian-themed movie we found at the video place, and because we recognized the poster from the wall of our middle school art classroom. I was totally blown away, not only was it a great and exciting movie, but two beautiful women making out (and a bit more) on my TV? Amazing. I still remember the shivers down my spine, and my hands shaking, to think that it. was. possible. to kiss a girl.

    It wasn't any kind of great epiphany, though, I'd had those a year earlier when I read Laurie R. King's Martinelli-series and realized that it. was. possible. to be a lesbian; however, reading about it and seeing it were somewhat (like, *totally*) different. Great books, and a great movie!


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