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Great spin-offs: "Rhoda," "Maude" and ... "90210"?

When I was a kid, I watched a lot of Saturday morning television — Hong Kong Phooey, Underdog, Krofft Superstars, etc. But even though I've outgrown (most) children's TV, I never fully broke the weekend morning TV habit. My guilty pleasure of late has been watching Beverly Hills 90210 on SOAPnet on weekend mornings.

(Right now they're in the college years, and I keep enjoying little nuggets inspired by the year that Darren Star and I overlapped at UCLA.)

So you'd think I'd be excited about the news I heard the other day — a spin-off of 90210 is reportedly in the works. But, you know, I wasn't so much. In fact, I thought it sounded like a pretty stupid idea. (As Dlisted.com said, “9021-NOOOOOO!!!!”) The show ended eight years ago. (And it should have ended at least 10 years ago.) There's no word yet on which cast members will return, and Darren Starr isn't even attached to the project. Additionally, the original audience is all grown up, and I don't know that they would really be interested in much more than a reunion show. So, I don't really get it. But apparently, it's not for me; it's for the Gossip Girl crowd, and is intended to be essentially a West Coast companion piece. Which still doesn't explain to me why it's going to be a spin-off of a long-dead show.

Of course, 90210 has already spawned one uber-successful spin-off, Melrose Place.

Melrose was one of those crazily successful spin-offs that has probably spawned all sorts of spin-off envy in development executives. It wasn't a particular favorite of mine, but I did like it in the relatively tame first season, before Michael Mancini became Dr. Evil and when the main drama was the will-they-or-won't-they tension between Billy and Allison.

But rather than just puzzle over the 90210 spin-off, I'd rather reminisce about spin-offs I recall fondly. Here are a few of my favorites:

Rhoda (1974 — The Mary Tyler Moore Show)

Rhoda was the first, and best, of the three Mary Tyler Moore spin-offs. (Phyllis and Lou Grant were the other two.) Mary and Rhoda were a great iconic pair (remember Romy and Michelle fighting over who was the Mary and who was the Rhoda in their relationship?), but Rhoda was a strong character in her own right. She had great scarfs, an on-again-off-again marriage and the most realistic New York Jewish family I've ever seen on television.

Maude (1972 — All in the Family)

All in the Family spawned so many spin-offs that even its spin-offs had spin-offs (Good Times was a spin-off of Maude, and Checking In was a spin-off of The Jeffersons.) Maude was the best. With Bea Arthur, Adrienne Barbeau and Mr. Drummond, how could they go wrong? Not only was the show smart and irreverent, but it was also daring — it featured a pre–Roe vs. Wade abortion. And the show had a catch-phrase that is still rattling around in my head: “God'll get you for that, Walter.”

Benson (1979 — Soap)

In all fairness, part of why I liked Benson so much was because I loved Soap, which was one of the best TV shows ever. As he was on Soap, Benson was the smartest member of the household/staff. Which, I guess, explains how he eventually ascended from butler to Lieutenant Governor. (I also had a crush on Caroline McWilliams, who played the Governor's secretary, Marcy. A few years later, she played a lesbian on St. Elsewhere and I was so happy. Even though I wasn't fully out to myself.)

Mork and Mindy (1978 — Happy Days)



A lot of people forget that Mork and Mindy was a spin-off of Happy Days, but there was that bizarre episode where Mork battled Fonzie and the character proved popular, and so the spin-off was born. Although the show lost its way once they married and had the baby, Mearth, the early seasons were brilliant. And I used to have a bit of a crush on Pam Dawber.

Daria (1997 — Beavis and Butthead)



I didn't only watch Daria because I had a crush on her best friend, Jane. I also identified with Daria, and loved the character development and wit of the show. My favorite moment was when Daria and Jane were babysitting and reinventing fairy tales and nursery rhymes for the kids. Jane popped off with, “And the dish ran away with the spoon. But Hawaii was the only state that would recognize the marriage as legal."

The Facts of Life (1979 — Diff'rent Strokes)

This is my favorite spin-off. Period. Diff'rent Strokes' loss of Mrs. Garrett (and it was a big loss) was Facts of Life's (and my) gain. Yes, it was stupid that the school nutritionist was responsible for things such as counting election ballots, and it was beyond contrived that the girls lived in a room together for so many years.

Here's a clip of the second major contrivance keeping them together:



But, contrivances aside, I loved that show then and I love it now. I suppose part of it was the tension between Blair and Jo, but I also liked that in early seasons they really hit some tough subjects — rape, suicide and teen pregnancy, to name a few. And, to this day, I still know that “AU” is the symbol for gold because of the episode in Season 4 when they were studying for finals.

I guess we'll see whether the new 90210 becomes anyone's new favorite spin-off. Will you be watching? And what are your favorite spin-offs?

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  • gldartt's picture

    Fav Spinoff

    Hands down, it had to be the Bionic Woman, spun off from the Six Million Dollar Man. I loved Jaime Summers and Lindsay Wagner, probably my first memorable crush. The new (now cancelled) version did not even come close to doing it or her justice. I loved that she was a teacher and that she would use her powers to deal with the kids in her class rather than always being the secret agent woman. And who can forget the Sasquatch episodes? God, how could they have screwed up the remake so badly?
    Ace14's picture

    D'oh!

    I can't believe I didn't think to include this! Thank you for the reminder. Lindsay Wagner was an early crush for many us -- I know someone who bought a sleep number bed just for that reason! :-)
    cosmiccowgirl's picture

    Xena!

    Best spin-off ever!
    Robin91's picture

    ... and I agree!

    ... and I agree!

     

    Angel is pretty good too, although I've never really watched it. But from what I've seen, it's good. Plus, Cordelia. Duh.

    water-fly's picture

    totally agree with you, it

    totally agree with you, it goes without saying, Xena is by far the Best spin-off ever!! Xena & Gabby forever!
    jeeo's picture

    yes!

    i was in the shower and for some reason thinking about this post of great spinoffs when it dawned on me that your forgot to mention xena! it's like, the best spinoff, evarrrrrrhhhhh.

    finalgirl's picture

    Ahhh, Melrose

    I seriously want to make out with that Season One DVD box...I loves me some Melrose Place! I also love the Melrose spin-off Models Inc. It was on for one sweet, sweet season featuring a pre-Matrix Carrie-Anne Moss and it was completely insane.

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    Natazzz's picture

    Models Inc

    Ah I had totally forgotten about that show.

    I remember a lot of hot women all being total bitches....that was fun.

    My fave spin-off has to be Angel.

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    GertandBernie's picture

    DARIA!

    I remember when my mom's best friends daughter would watch that show at my house when they slept over. My mom would actually let me stay up until 12 (shocking!) to watch it with her because it was apparently her favorite show. I didn't really get it at the time, but I had a huge crush on the girl, so I would watch it anyway. I started watching episodes online recently, and just realized how awesome the show is. GOOD TIMES.
    Alcy's picture

    I agree...

    with Xena, best spin-off ever of course. And Models Inc, I'd forgotten about that show too but I used to love it. Much better than Melrose Place because there were more hot chicks.

    And I'd also have to say Law and Order: SVU, I had never seen an episode of the original Law and Order, too many crusty old men, but Olivia Benson and Alex Cabot have me hooked on SVU.

    Berna's picture

    Melrose Place

    was really big back then. I loved it a lot. Much more then BH 902010. I watched it till the bitter end and that was sadly the case with the last 2 seasons.

    Models Inc. was cool too. That was my first time discovering Carie-Anne Moss and I love her since then!

    Bionic Woman! Yep, absolutely.

    I discovered Daria way too late, but I liked the few I saw, lol.

     

    avab80's picture

    I will probably watch the

    I will probably watch the new 90210 spin-off, even though it is pretty much guaranteed to be bad. I lived for that show in middle school. I can't imagine how any of the original characters would be involved though. They'd all be in their mid-30's now, so not really old enough to have teenage children (especially since none of them had children while they were teens on the original show). Whatever.

    My favorite spin-off has to be Law & Order: SVU. I could watch re-runs of that show for hours. Even if I've seen an episode already, I can still sit there and watch it again.

    JaxHavok69's picture

    daria of course

    i mostly watched daria after if started being re-runed on the-n a few years ago but then was crushed when they stopped :/ but for sure i love daria :D that was the funniest thing on television. period. :p well, maybe except 30 Rock :D haha <3
    nikkif99uk's picture

    Defo agree with Angel, Law

    Defo agree with Angel, Law & Order: SVU, Conviction the spin-off from SVU as it brought Alex Cabot back to our screens. Xena too. The Simpsons from The Tracey Ullman Show.

    Others have liked is the new spin-off of Doctor Who, The Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood too, Frasier from Cheers. Oh and Young Americans featuring Katherine Moennig was apparently a spinoff of Dawson's Creek. Another one I just remembered NCIS from JAG.

    Others which are good but not favourites include The Jeffersons (All In the Family), Pinky & the Brain (Animaniacs), Tabitha (Bewitched), Holby City (Casualty), Holby Blue (Holby City), Knots Landing (Dallas), The Game (Girlfriends), Private Practice (Grey's Anatomy), Degrassi: The Next Generation (Degrassi High), The Parkers (Moesha), All Grown Up (Rugrats), Queer Eye For the Straight Girl (Queer Eye For the Straight Guy), Muppet Babies (Muppet Show), Promised Land (Touched By An Angel) Lone Gunmen (X Files) and Murder Investigation Team (The Bill)

    Wow so many shows are spinoffs

    cogent53's picture

    Some great spin offs

    Yes, Xena is one that exceeded the mothership show, Hercules. In many ways I preferred Angel to Buffy (not a popular view though.)

     

    Glad someone mentioned Knots Landing, that was a glossy soap I loved!

     

    How about Frasier? A show that certainly won more awards than mothership Cheers.

     

     


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