AE:
Prom also contains a recurring high school theme, as
heard on “Put It Out For Good” and “Driver
Education.” Are these songs based on your own experiences
in combination with what you are seeing now in high school kids?
AR:
Yes, it’s definitely both. Although I wouldn’t say
that I’m in touch with what every high school thinks in
every part of the country (laughs). It’s so different
from one region to the next. It’s my little neck of the
woods. For some reason this record became thematic around that
time period. A lot of it references things that I went through
and images that I remember from high school and I put it in
the context of some high school experiences of kids I know now
or things that I see on the news or that I read or kids that
I talk to at shows. I probably fell into the trap a couple of
times, but I didn’t want it to be too sentimental about
back in the good old days when I was in high school (laughs).
I
think high school was a coming of age for me, more than college
was. I’m more attached to the things I went through in
high school and the teachers that I had. That was when I started
singing and playing in clubs. That’s when Emily and I
started the Indigo Girls and that’s when I started finding
my political self. College was a really great time for me academically,
but I was already playing music and I was already an activist
and I was already gay (laughs). All of those things happened
to me in high school. When I have a touchstone to talk about
activism or politics or rebellion or identity, high school usually
becomes that.
AE:
The song on Prom that I keep coming back to is “Rural
Faggot.” You shine an unyielding light on homophobia,
and by the time the song reaches its dramatic and ironic conclusion,
you have rewarded the listener ten-fold.
AR: I’m glad that you found that ending
to be like that. The song was pretty dark and I didn’t
intend it to be a hopeless song. It was meant to be like “This
is what you’re going to go through and it’s going
to be all right.” But this is the process that is happening
right now that you may not see. I wrote if from the rural area
that I live in and a couple of my neighbors and their kids and
these boys that I’ve seen grow up over the last twelve
years and become teenagers and then leave the house. Some of
them are gay and some of them aren’t. Many of them went
through a period of gay bashing and would tell me about it (laugh
of disbelief), as if I would think it was funny. They knew I
was gay and I don’t know why they thought I would think
it was funny. They wanted to get approval from me for something
that was obviously not something that I would agree with.
They
saw me as different, because I’m a gay woman, and these
were all guys. They saw a real difference between gay women
and gay men. That is a real hallmark of living in a rural area.
In a rural area, you almost expect the flannel and the almost
mannish style of dress. But if guys walk around with a purse,
there’s just no place for that in a rural area (laughs).
There’s no place for a man who is effeminate or for a
man who isn’t effeminate, but is gay. It’s a really
hard road, and that’s why I made it (the song) specifically
about guys. It’s something I wanted to talk about because
it’s something I see a lot where I live.
AE:
The closing track, “Let It Ring,” is the sound of
someone trying to wrestle their God back from the Christian
Right, and it has this gospel fervor to it.
AR: I started it after a pro-choice march and
then merged it into gay rights issues, too. Because (laughs)
often when we’re doing something that is pro-choice, we
also get picketed by people who are anti-gay, too. They conflate
the two for some reason. I have a lot of friends who really
struggle because they want to go to church but they don’t
feel like it’s their place anymore. There is not enough
reconciliation.
I
have people in my family that are gay and really religious and
struggle with wanting to be a part of a religious community,
but also feel like they need to boycott it if it’s not
going to accept them. I wrote it thinking about them and wanted
to start out with this caustic, sarcastic thing, because I remember
the women’s march in D.C. and one of the most striking
images was these young, almost punk kids with the pro-life signs
with pictures of the dead fetuses standing on the sidewalk that
were part of a big church group. It was striking to me that
their parents had passed down all this hate and fervor to them
and they were just taking the torch up. I got the idea for writing
the song being really sarcastic and then letting it move into
a place that was about love.