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Interview with Filmmaker Erin Greenwell (page 4)
by Dasha Snyder, November 9, 2005

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I like to write very classic stories, classic comedies, but then fuck it up (excuse my language) by tossing in a lesbian character. So someone doesn’t have to go and dissect this buddy movie with 2 men and imagine if they were one of the guys. There’s going to be a lesbian right here, and it’s Julie Goldman, and have fun!

The most exciting thing about that is, like when I did 21, people identified with that character (Leigh, a gangly baby dyke played by Rachel Style) because it rang true. I had so many men identify with that character because she was awkward. She’s an awkward teenager--that’s all you need to know. It also wasn’t one of those sanitized things, like she’s an awkward character and she’s also a lesbian. It’s not a tag “and she happens to be gay.” No. She’s 100% gay, she has desires, she has dreams, but she’s also--ALSO--all these things. It’s not an accident. I like to create things like: here’s a lesbian and, in case you didn’t know, she happens to have crushes, happens to have dreams, you know? So, the same thing with Mom.

AE: So, where did the story for Mom come from? What was your inspiration?
EG:
The story came from two places. I was a transcriptionist for a company that did market research, as one of my 100 shit jobs. So, I would get all these weird tapes, where people would be like “If I had a four-door, I’d like it to have screens.” There are people who go out and shoot about whatever product they’re trying to sell. They also tape the house and ask personal questions, so when they make commercials, they can gear the products towards that personal part of the market. And I noticed as I started watching the footage, the camera work got sloppier and sloppier, and the person doing the interview started getting more and more disheveled--to the point where the interviewer in a suit walked up to the camera on a Dutch angle and ripped duct tape off of half the lens.

And I’m cracking up, ‘cause I’ve been doing this transcription for 18 hours. I’m ripping through tapes, getting paid $100 bucks a tape and I’m like: “Wow. I wonder if those guys are gettin’ on each other’s nerves...?” Her hair is gettin’ more and more messed-up. Her hair started out perfect, and by the end she’s like a total wreck; Everything. I thought: that would be a really fun thing, to get an uptight person and pair them with someone who’s just doing’ it for the money, and make them uncomfortable. It’s the obvious thing to do - get 2 opposites and stick them in a room together.

AE: My playwriting teacher used to say: Stick them on a train and start peeling the onions.
EG:
Yeah, if you know the characters you’re working with, you can get ‘em in trouble forever.

AE: Layer by layer.
EG:
As long as you’ve got the emotional center of how to mess them up, it’s great.

AE: Especially for the audience.
EG:
The secondary thing of where to strand them came from when I was stuck at a youth hostel years ago. And there was this code: if the bunks are rockin’, don’t come a knockin’. All the women we had to share the room with, like halfway through the night you’d hear “Squeak, squeak, squeak” and you’d look around and all the top bunks were filled and all the bottom bunks were empty. And I was like: Oh my God, I just want to sleep and there’s all these baby dykes gettin’ it on! So I thought, I’ll stick those characters there, and then I’ll just let them explode.

Sometimes people say: For God sakes! Can’t you write something that doesn’t have a lesbian in it? Sure, if it comes to me. But how can I help but toss a lesbian character in, when it’s a part of me? And I grew up wishing I could see that part of me. And I love film. So, for me, this is the best way I can contribute. Keep writing lesbian comedy and producing.

AE: Do you have any plans beyond Mom? What do you want to do next?
EG:
This is gonna’ sound unglamorous. You want to see the trajectory of my life? I would love to keep producing lesbian comedies. Keep being able to set up a collective and connect people to each other. If I could have my master, master goal... When I’m older, I would love to run a business arts school for women. I really do love teaching. I would be in heaven if I could make movies half the year and teach the other half. Keep making movies, keep helping people make movies, keep being involved with people’s dreams and just teach my heart out.

Find more information at smithyproductions.com and momthemovie.com

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