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Ellen's New Talk Show Tests Host, Viewers
Sarah Warn, September 2003

Ellen Degeneres Ellen with her first guest, Jennifer Aniston

"Less evil and more glamour for daytime!" Ellen Degeneres declared in the premiere episode of her new talk show on September 8th, and while the show doesn't exactly bring on the glamour (Degeneres is in her customary casual wear), it may help fight evil--if it succeeds.

Blending stand-up comedy, celebrity interviews, clips of Ellen interacting with unsuspecting strangers, and her trademark ramblings full of random and self-deprecating comments, The Ellen Denegeres Show is laugh-out-loud funny in some moments, and charmingly quirky in others. The first episode included a conversation with Jennifer Aniston, a visit from an 85-year-old cake decorator, and a performance by Macy Gray; celebrities like Justin Timberlake, Betty White, and Megan Mullaly are scheduled to make appearances later in the week.

Whether she's introducing the cue-card guy or thumb-wrestling Jennifer Anniston, Degeneres' seems very much at ease with the audience and the talk show format in general. She puts her wide-eyed, kid-at-Disneyland persona to good use throughout, drawing viewers in by sharing her excitement about even the most minute details.

In the weeks leading up to its launch, Ellen's talk show has been compared frequently to Rosie O'Donnell's, since both women have an approachable, everywoman-appeal, and they're both lesbians.

But Rosie O'Donnell didn't come out as a lesbian until well after her show was established, and that's a crucial difference. Although Degeneres' sexuality didn't even warrant a mention in the premiere episode, and isn't likely to be discussed much on the show, there is almost no one in America who isn't aware that Ellen is gay after her very public coming-out in 1997.

Which means ratings for The Ellen Degeneres Show (which plays at various times on NBC affiliates around the country) will be not just a reflection of Ellen's current popularity, but of middle-America's comfort with lesbianism, as well.

Six years ago, when Ellen Degeneres and her sitcom character came out, middle-America was clearly not comfortable with it. Her sitcom was canceled as its ratings fell, and when her personal life came apart shortly afterwards, Ellen retreated from the public eye to regroup. In 2001 she played a lesbian again in another sitcom, which also failed (it didn't help that the latter just wasn't funny). She received critical reviews for her performance as the host of the post-9/11 Emmy's that year, but that wasn't quite enough to restore her career to its former luster.

Ellen finally began to make a serious come-back in 2003, however, as she began a sold-out nationwide comedy tour (which became an HBO special) and served as the voice for a comical, memory-impaired fish in the animated film Finding Nemo, which became one of the highest-grossing films of all time.

This success helped Ellen finally ink a deal to create her own talk show.

Some critics believed the first sitcom suffered its ratings decline because it was "too gay," and Ellen appears to have learned from that. She has made it abundantly clear in interviews that she isn't going to incorporate topics and issues related to gay culture or gay rights into the show, at least not deliberately. She seems to be swinging too far in the opposite direction, though, actively avoiding the subject even when it makes sense to mention it.

If Britney Spears were on her show this week, for example, would Ellen ask her about her televised kiss with Madonna at last week's Video Music Awards? A heterosexual host probably would, since the kiss has been dominating the news for days. When Megan Mullally is on the show on September 11th, will Ellen ask Mullally about her kiss with Madonna last season, or about the fact that both Mullally and her character on Will & Grace are bisexual (sort-of)?

Because Degeneres is sensitive about not wanting her show to get labeled as a "gay talk show" (and the fact that she's a lesbian is already a strike against her), it is understandable why she might avoid topics like these, especially in the beginning. But perhaps as the show wears on and she's proven to the audience (and herself) that she's more than her sexual orientation, Ellen will relax and find a compromise that doesn't require her to actively seek out gay topics, but doesn't mean she ignores than when they're relevant, either.

If the show is successful, however, it won't matter much if Ellen doesn't mention her girlfriend or say the word "lesbian" on the show. Her daily presence in America's living room will challenge public conceptions and stereotypes about lesbians, as well as the notion that you can't make it in entertainment as an out lesbian.

Of course, Ellen's success doesn't mean the need for better lesbian visibility will be over, or that lesbians will suddenly start appearing all over TV and film. And it doesn't mean every out lesbian in Hollywood who has had doors slammed in her face will suddenly be successful (succeeding in show business is still more about who you know than anything else, and one of Ellen's advantages is that she knows a lot of people in high places, and almost all of them like her).

But the success of the show will mean that one more barrier has been broken for lesbian entertainers, and that American viewers feel just a little more comfortable with lesbianism than they did before--even if we still have a long way to go.

And if the show fails? Then we'll be forced to conclude that Ellen was right--there's still too much evil in daytime. At least for now.

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