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"Cashmere Mafia" Recaps: Episode 1.4 "The Deciders"

Juliet asks quietly: If six months from now the fund problems had gone away, would Davis ever have told her about Cilla Grey? It's Baccarat crystal clear the answer is no. Davis moves toward the car to continue with the photo shoot as if nothing's wrong, but Juliet doesn't want to play anymore.

Juliet: I'm just tired from all the posing we've been doing.
Davis: Well, just sit, we can take a few …
Juliet: Of course, we've been posing for years and it never bothered me.
Davis: Please, just get in the car.
Juliet: Davis, the bags behind you aren't props. I filled them with your clothes this afternoon.
Davis: Why?
Juliet: To take with you to the hotel where you'll be staying, once you drive away from here.

Juliet is finally done once and for all. True to form to the end, Davis blurts out, "How can you do this to me?"

Gee. Let's see. He lied to her, betrayed her, took their money, humiliated her and broke her heart. That Juliet: what a bitch.

Caitlin gets a call — Caitlin makes an appearance at Luke's birthday party after the bridal/baby/commitment/adoption/you're-in-my-will-now shower. As she chats with Zoe, her cell phone rings; it's Sam, Sam, the Bathroom Man. He affectionately calls her "Spray-on." She tells him she can't talk now and hangs up, but not before leaving everyone with the distinct impression she will happily call him later.

Caitlin admits she gave her number to a strange guy she met in the bathroom while out with Alicia.

Zoe: Guy?
Caitlin:
No, not like that. Just some guy, we … I met at the shower. I guess. He wasn't really at the shower. He was cute. He's not really cute. I don't know why I gave him my number. I probably shouldn't have done that. Zoe, I am the Worst. Lesbian. Ever.
Zoe: You need cake.

Caitlin's stammering is almost cute. I guess. Not really cute. I don't know why I said that. I probably shouldn't have said that. I need a drink.

Closure — Later that night, Juliet roams her ginormous apartment alone, the whiff of man-smell growing fainter with each passing hour. Zoe massages her Supermom muscles after a successful afternoon of laser tag and showing the client what a real Wonder Woman is like.

Caitlin is somewhere, staring at her phone, unable to decide which number she wants to call.

And Mia is walking home, almost to her door now, when she sees Jack coming her way. "Jack, what are you doing here?" she asks softly.

He says he messed up. He's a jerk. It "sucked" seeing her with Dr. Feelgood. And stuff. It's all so confusing. Mia looks at him, unmoved.

Mia: What do you want?
Jack: I don't know. I'm trying to still figuring it out.
Mia: Well, I do. I want to move on with my life.

Jack stands with his hands in his pockets as Mia goes inside. Finally, he walks away. Someone warn the goats.

Next time on Cashmere Mafia: Caitlin fools around with Bathroom Man. Zoe hires a manny, and Mia taps that action. Davis takes Juliet's money and runs.

Forza Roma's picture

c'mon!

I'm all for Caitlin having to deal with the fact that having a relationship with a woman doesn't automatically make you 100 percent lesbian. 

But seriously... THIS guy? When he said "Only lipsticks" she should have slapped him and gone back to her date.  He may as well have said "Only the ones I don't believe are really in a relationship with their girlfriend because they dress 'straight'."

I guess it is continuity, though. The tool she ran into on her first date with Alicia also suggested horrendous taste in men. 

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pecola's picture

Exactly.

RachelwasHere wrote:
But seriously... THIS guy? When he said "Only lipsticks" she should have slapped him and gone back to her date.

Exactly.

Plus, that same guy just played this racist baseball player on a show my roommate watches and seeing him just totally freaks me out now...he's going to be trouble.

 

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Shini's picture

When he said "Only

When he said "Only lipsticks" she should have slapped him and gone back to her date. He may as well have said "Only the ones I don't believe are really in a relationship with their girlfriend because they dress 'straight'."

I didn't find it insulting, I took it as him stating his preference. And the fact that he hit on her while she was at a lesbian shower? Well, she wasn't exactly broadcasting "I'm in a relationship." And this is isn't about being a lesbian or not, it's about her problem with commitment. So yeah, all in all she was the one that annoyed me in that scene, not him.

jgrace1's picture

Caitlin fools around with

Caitlin fools around with Bathroom Man

 

 

What what WHAT??? :(

Gaby's picture

OMG...

"That is not called being gay. That's called being 12." LMAO you are so funny!

Is the network really backing out on the lesbian storyline?? And at the same time they are introducing the *oh so original* lesbian searching for sperm ???

Please don´t!!!!!!!!

CaroL's picture

I almost punched my computer

I almost punched my computer after I watched the last episode of Cashmere Mafia (I have to download it 'cause we don't have it here in Brazil)... I hate ABC and I don't even have that channel!! 
Brunette's picture

loverboy?

LOL! that brings back some 80s flashbacks and a questionable hair do  :-P

btw the loverboy link didn't work in my side. Maybe it's me?

baarlijan_xen's picture

I want Zoe to be MY supermama...

 

Best character on the show... she's the only one I really feel the power drive from.

And why did I like Miranda Otto so much on LOTR but simply cannot stomach Juliette's annoying low steady voice??? Too cold. Too aristocratic. Too dramatic. Is she channelling Greta Garbo??

The way she drags on the name "Davis" or "Cilla Grey" really gets on my nerves... oh well, maybe it's just her storyline that sucks!

Broadway Baby's picture

I agree with you, yes

The Davis/Cilla thing was making me nutters, namely because I cannot stand the name Cilla, but I was very proud of her for having the strength in the end to finally leave him. She was too good for him, even if she is an overly-placid carbon copy of Bree from Desperate Housweives. At least Juliet's not homophobic :)
Lauren's picture

....Too Connecticut?

They really do need to start warming Juliet's character up a bit for her to become more likeable. 

Zoe is my favorite, too. I'm all for sassy, powerful brunettes.  

Que9's picture

"Zoe is my favorite, too.

"Zoe is my favorite, too. I'm all for sassy, powerful brunettes." - lonelily.

I couldnt have said it better myself. ditto.

Julia G.'s picture

I hate you, ABC

WHY are you doing this to us?!

I just hope this is temporary, but you're gonna have to do something really amazing with Catlin and Alicia to make me forget this whole Bathroom Man thing.

Thanks, Dara. You make this bearable. And even funny :P

 

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"The opposite of church is sperm!" - Sarah P. - The Lo-Down

jamlawgirl's picture

Wow, bad machine, you were

Wow, bad machine, you were in finer than usual (which is pretty fine) form on this one!

So many good snarky lines in there:

"He's the stinker that can't keep his hands off the pussies" HA!

"That's not called being a lesbian, it's called being 12." I soooo agree! I mean when I heard her say that line about liking "making out" with Alicia, I was convinced I'd misheard it. Making out! What are they, ninth graders in the girls locker room trading stories?!

There were many other gems in there including "Sam, Sam the Bathroom Man" and the name you gave Zoe's company: Something (can't remember), Backstab and Gross. I laughed at that one because I'm a law student and the name you gave had the same cadence as the million interchangeable and faceless law firms that were recruiting on campus last fall, lol.

I also share your frustration with Alicia's slowness in stepping up the tempo of the relationship. I mean I understand being careful especially with someone who's exlporing her sexuality for the first time, but it's been a month!

Anyhoo, here's hoping the plot gets better. But  I'll probably continue watching ianyway, if only so I can better enjoy these awesome recaps!

Omega II's picture

Where's Catlin?

 

even though it's Davis who's the stinker who can't keep his hands off the pussies.

LOL!!! Perfect, like it was intentional, but I doubt it.

Davis blurts out, "How can you do this to me?"

Funniest line of the episode.

Catlin: ...Zoe, I am the Worst. Lesbian. Ever.
Zoe: You need cake.

No, she needs pie. WHAT?! Like no one else was thinking that?

 

Sad to see your not doing Torchwood this season. Your recaps are the reason I started watching the show.

 

"Bad jokes are us, ur me."

NOLAGypsy's picture

No, she needs pie. WHAT?! Like no one else was thinking that?

No, she needs pie. WHAT?! Like no one else was thinking that?

LMAO! I totally agree with you!

WonkoTheSane's picture

A whole month!

Wow, a month! That's seven months in lesbian years, right?

Am I the only one who thinks that's not a long time? I certainly wouldn't sleep with someone I'd only known a month. My girlfriend and I didn't do the deed until we'd been together for 4 months. We both think it's pretty important to be in love before you have sex though. I know not everyone is going to share that view, which is fine, but is a month really such a long time? Particularly when Caitlin keeps being so flaky about the whole gay/straight/bi thing.

Also - it doesn't matter how "confused" you are - you don't give someone else your number while you're on a date. That's BS.

browne's picture

A month...

Wow, a month! That's seven months in lesbian years, right?

Am I the only one who thinks that's not a long time?

No, you're not the only one Wonko - I agree with you.

Frank-ay's picture

Brava!

As stated before, you were in rarer than rare form on this recap.

 

my fav: even though it's Davis who's the stinker who can't keep his hands off the pussies.

 

LMAO

I really hope Caitlan gets her hot ass in check soon with Alicia. Her actions this episode (all 4 minutes of them) were unacceptable!

MelMac's picture

Captions

I'm almost certain the captions said that Caitlin said "I actually like waking up with her," not "I actually like making out with her." I could be wrong, but that would give the episode and your review, which is hilarious, a whole different spin.
Julia's picture

that's right.... it's

that's right.... it's "waking up with her". I hope we actually get to see them waking up together
NOLAGypsy's picture

Caption Debacles

When you say caption, do you mean on the actual tv or did you see it somewhere else? 'Cause I listened to that line several times, and honestly, I can't make out (no pun intended) what the hell Caitlyn says. It could be "making out" or "waking up" or even just "hanging out".

Granted, all of my American tv comes to me via the web, so I don't have the luxury of closed captions.  Which is why I'm asking whether that was the offical script for the episode or not...

WindRyderX's picture

"Waking Up"

I'm pretty sure she said "waking up" because if you took into context what happens here http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3163824&st=15 (scroll down for huge spoilers on episode 5), then that would make more sense.  The link, if reliable, talks about all the Alicia and Caitlin scenes that were taken out of the 4th episode. I'm really disappointed these scenes were taken out but I'm not givin up on ABC yet, plus I just love Bonnie Somerville...
Broadway Baby's picture

I think I have the answer!

According the the ever-so-fabulous insider words of nroberts883 from the IMDB message boards, here is what they cut from this episode after it was determined that the episode was running too long:

"Caitlin and Alicia; them waking up in bed together and another mini scene in Alicia's apartment (where she actually asks Caitlin to the bridal shower), and the bridal shower which was a long scene in the script.

The bed scene was them literally waking up together. Alicia makes a joke about "7 times" but then the alarm goes off again and while hitting the snooze, Caitlin says "eight". Caitlin's blackberry rings, a meeting that she needed to go to was moved up earlier so she won't have time to go back to her own apartment and change. Alicia says that is not a problem, one of the perks to dating another woman, i.e. double the wardrobe.

The other scene in the apartment is Caitlin trying on a few of Alicia's dresses before choosing one to wear and that is when Alicia asks her to the bridal shower. Alicia says that it would be nice to bring a "significant other" to the shower. Caitlin is touched that she is "significant". Caitlin later makes a reference to the significant line while out with the mafia.

At the bridal shower the brides make a sweet speech to each other and off in the corner Caitlin and Alicia put there own spin on it for one another. I believe the term hot class (minus the CL) was thrown in somewhere. Then someone starts questioning when Caitlin and Alicia are going to make the big committment and Alicia tries to change the subject as to not freak out Caitlin. This is when Caitlin goes to the bathroom and meets Sam. She comes back, all that baby talk starts and she excuses herself again and goes to the bar and this was when Sam came up to her. They had more dialogue in the scene before she slipped him her card."


bugeyedkitty's picture

 ...some of the scenes

 ...some of the scenes that aired didnt make all that much sense to mebut fill in with the missing you described and it all fits..!  too bad the editors chopped all the scenes that moved caitlins journey along!

 

 

euge's picture

Oooooh! Now the scenes make

Oooooh! Now the scenes make more sense. It seemed a little rushed to me, now I know why.


Thanks :)

MelMac's picture

Captions

I meant the actual captions on TV.
Broadway Baby's picture

Re: Captions

Yeah, the captions themselves I have not figured out yet. Though, in the context of all the edited stuff the "waking up" part would make sense. I personally thought I heard "making out" but I think that was because I was expecting it after reading the recap. I thought it was a rather corny line, IMO, but then again this show isn't entirely unaccustomed to those :) I guess if I want to find out I'll have to watch her part of the episode again. *UGH*
NOLAGypsy's picture

Thanks and Aarrggh!

Thanks for the info, but damn! Now that we know how much they cut out, I'm feeling less optimistic for the direction of their storyline. Caitlyn and Sam got as much screen time (if not more than) as Alicia and Caitlyn. And they cut out some quite vital details. I hope they manage to squeeze them into another episode, but LAWD! I really hope this isn't going the way of the O.C.

 

Lauren's picture

worst.lesbian.ever

not only are alicia and caitlin not getting any airtime, but they bring in that jerk to "sweep" caitlin off of her feet. give me a break. i was so dissapointed in this episode. and the line "only the lipsticks"? WTF?!?!?!? caitlin should have slapped him and went back to her date and the party rather than give that guy her number. I was really upset with that. although i don't want to lose hope in this show, it has started to slip now. hopefully it can redeem itself. good recap though. keep up the good work bad machine!
LoveFirst's picture

What's wrong with "no sex"

What's wrong with "no sex" for the first 3 months? I want to know the person first before jumping into bed with her. Isn't it normal ?

I find Cashmere Mafia to be a little boring. The only thing that keep me from watching it is Cat and Alicia. Their relationship seems more realistic than most relationships in The L Word. A little drama in their relationship wouldn't hurt as long as Cat and Alicia get back together in the back :)

Broadway Baby's picture

Yes

What's wrong with "no sex" for the first 3 months? I want to know the person first before jumping into bed with her. Isn't it normal ?

 

Thank you! I thought I was the only one here who had any sense about them. Y'all should be shamed of yourself. Give the cake some time to bake before you eat it! Raw eggs can carry STD's, you know.

fallon ash's picture

meh

I didn't even watch this week's episode. Three episodes I lasted. But the recap was fantastic and hilarious, thank you Dara!! Recaps have got to be the best thing ever, I can be into shows without having to watch all the crappy scenes... yay!
Betty's picture

I actually like making out/hanging out/waking up with her?

Honesty, the first time I heard I thought it was "hanging out". Then a lot of people said "waking up" and now you say "making out". I take it "waking up" because really, straight girls hang out and make out with each other all the time.

"I guess there's no chance he's a lesbian-identified man named Lisa, huh?"
Hahaha. Or maybe Sam will reveal himself to be a transgender lesbian rockstar named Samantha.

Damn, why is Caitlin still so cute even when she's so wrong?

I so want CM to be picked up for another season (or more) just to enjoy your awesome recaps :D

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Explorergal's picture

OY

Dara

I think you were pretty reserved with your snarkiness this time.  I was anticipating much more!  

BOO to ABC for Caitlin's storyline.  She changes her mind more often than a chameleon changes color walking through a rainbow. What dramatic effect?  Let her find out more about Alicia and herself.  Let nature take its course.  Geesh!

Thank God for your recaps, a good place to vent!

Jule531's picture

Going well, then..........

I thought this show was pretty good at the beginning. But now I'm not so sure. Caitlin has like NO lines whatsoever. Like the writers don't know what to do with her character besides make her into a lesbian. Her character has no susbtance at all. I know tons about everyone else but Caitlin's most defining quality is that she is a lesbian(maybe a lesbian, since we aren't so sure now). And now, with the last episode, she's straight again. But, I guess we'll see where this goes. This will probably take like 5 more episodes to develop since Caitlin averages about 7 lines per episode. This show is going downhill really fast.

neigekins's picture

Expecting to read "SHOW CANCELLED"

I'm reading that viewership is down and the show is in trouble. Is anyone suprised?  ABC doesn't have a f _ _ _ ing clue. Haven't they realized yet that playing up the relationship between Caitlan and Alicia might improve the show as well as increase viewership?
Melissa Hsu's picture

caitlin & alicia

Caitlin still liking guys is a total buzzkill. In the next episode (airing on February 6th) entitled "Stay With Me" they say that Caitlin goes on a date with bathroom man Sam, yes, but they also say that Alicia is going to "drop a bomb on Caitlin that may change their relationship"... and I am pretty sure this is where they introduce the fact that Alicia is pregnant--- since Lourdes Benedicto is pregnant in real life and they said they were going to write it into the plot of the show so they didnt have to hide her from the boobs down. Should be interesting...... www.eyeslikealeopard.com
Rocco's picture

Alicia Pregnant?

Why do lesbians always have to be pregnant? I hate this storyline and it's been done WAY to often!

 

Broadway Baby's picture

Give her a break

I think we should all cut Caitlin a little slack. This whole"lesbian" thing is fairly new to her and it's almost a given that she would get overwhelmed at some point and freak out a little. It would have been one thing if she had given her number to a man who seemed interested in her at first but was a perfect gentelman by backing off as soon as he found out she was with a woman at a lesbian bridal shower. I think there was a point in the fact that he was kind of a Lipstick-chasing ass, they're obviously not making this guy out to be likable, which means he's probably just a temporary roadblock for a much better things to come between Caitling and Alicia. That's just my opinion. I think she's just conflicted and confused. She'll see the light sooner or later and realize Alicia's the one she' really meant to be with :)
Forza Roma's picture

agreed

Aside from the storyline moving at a pace of negative 2 miles per hour and screen time of next to nothing, I don't think the storyline is terrible. 

I hope they stick to it and show Caitlin deal with her relationship and move on with other women (or women and men... ) as it would get pretty stagnant as a story/stereotype if she and Alicia just went straight to serious, long-term.

 

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Momma Bear's picture

I guess I am outta touch O_o

So I read alot of you don't like to have sex before getting to know a person, I am purley the opposite. Well I have been in a relationship for over 6 years so it kinda doesn't count anymore. But when I was single I never use to wait ( I did for my current partner, wife, lover blah blah) only 5 dates though. But really what's so wrong with bumping uglies on a first date or dance?

Oh and I don't think I will be watching this show to be honest. I stay away from ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS not that I feel that anyother channel besides logo really gets me as a gay/lesbian viewer. But that's just me.

 

 

 

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WonkoTheSane's picture

Not a thing

But really what's so wrong with bumping uglies on a first date or dance?

I don't think anyone said there was anything wrong with it. But equally it's not at all out of the ordinary for people to want to wait.

Sally's picture

Very Nice!!!

I laughed with this, your comments are right on target! I felt like a dork with the comment on Societe Generale!!! And about the whole series, I would like for Caitlin to be a lesbian, but she is too new and apparently still a "virgin" so of course she has the distraction of other guys... I understand her. Great job with the recap!

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Echodiana's picture

1 month

if this were real life i'd say 1 month was nothing, give them time. But this is tv, i don't need them to sleep together but at least give them more intimate screen time. i mean just a conversation in a private setting i.e not the street or a bar. i watched the episode with caption and i thought she said waking up and if that's what she said it sucks that we did not get to see that. yes she's scared so she's reverting to the familiar, i understand that but the reason it bugs me so much is that we see so little of th Cait-Alicia relationship to begin with. I as much as the next person would like for this show to continue and to have a full season run but this show is Doomed.It's going to take a miracle to save it.
brazgirl's picture

Same lame story

What it it with writers and the same lame lesbian baby shower/ relationship freakout scene? We can't even blame it on the straight folks because Mama Chaiken used in on the L-word too. There was Jenny with the hot lez girl she met at Dinah Shore having a great time when there is a lesbian baby shower and all the friends start asking Jenny when they are getting maried and having a baby, etc. Now, I have been a lesbean for quite a while and have even attended baby showers and never have I encountered this type of situation. Lame, lame lame...
IfOnly's picture

Chutney Popcorn anyone?

What an odd thing if Alicia's already pregnant. I mean, if Caitlin's gonna be the mama too (or mama C?), how are they supposed to make Alicia show a bump before Lourdes will? Hmm... Ponder that.

I'm also one of the waking-up-ers, simply because that's what I heard all those 20 times I watched that scene. And I'm glad I watched it 20 times then 'cause this is one episode that's not getting a rerun on my computer. It sucked. The recap though, was great! As usual!

"Caitlin's stammering is almost cute. I guess. Not really cute. I don't know why I said that. I probably shouldn't have said that. I need a drink." Funny. I laughed. Oh and, can I have one too?

l.co's picture

Nothing better than the recaps!

"I guess there's no chance he's a lesbian-identified man named Lisa, huh?"

Great line.

 Keep up the fantastic work!

mudpiegirl's picture

a month?

I'm sorry, but I didn't realize that dating someone for more than a month before sleeping with them was something to ridicule, whether you are straight or gay.

And considering how uncertain Caitlin has been, even before the Bathroom Man, why would Alicia want to rush things?

We really have come a long way when taking it slow is now the "immature" (what are they 12?) thing to do.

Jade's picture

LOL

bad machine recaps are the best recaps! loved it thanks!
Marina's picture

First of, I love the

First of, I love the recaps. Great job. I kinda knew that this storyline with Caitlin and Alicia wont make it far. Love if it did though. I also agree with one of the comments I read - "i don't need them to sleep together but at least give them more intimate screen time" its true, they didnt show Caitlin and Alicia that much. Its either they're in the street kissing or its one month later. Whatever.

Thanks for the recaps, again.