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Interview with Kate Clinton
by Malinda Lo, July 2004

Kate Clinton has been performing as an out lesbian comedian for over 23 years, and was just awarded the 2004 Stonewall Award. She is the author of Don’t Get Me Started and has recently released her seventh CD, The Marrying Kind, and will have her own special on MTV's upcoming gay channel LOGO. She recently talked with AfterEllen.com about her career, this year’s election, and The L Word.

AfterEllen.com: You just finished several weeks of touring with Melissa Etheridge; how was that?
Kate Clinton: My ears are just returning to normal. She is such a rocker, you know, I mean she does like a two-and-a-half-hour show, she takes no break. The band takes a break—she does like three solos and then they come back all refreshed. It was just a great show and I told her that it was just so magnificent…to see what music does, because people are so moved by her songs.

Kate Clinton

And you can just see they really meant things to them. You know, “Come to my Window”…they’re just so sexy and they’re so fabulous. She comes on stage and people just stand up and just sing every single word for the whole show; it’s great.

AE: You opened for her, is that right?
KC: Yes, I did, which was really fun. It was certainly an opportunity to be seen by more people, and you know I think it’s a great combination, with…stand-up comedy words and then some music, so it was really fun.

AE: I’m assuming that her audience was mostly gay and lesbian, although maybe not?
KC: It really was surprising…. After I did my set I would just kind of go through the screaming crowds, and…there was this one couple…a man and a woman…they were both very white-haired and they were standing, singing the words as well, and they had to be in their seventies. It was just so cool; it was very mixed. It was certainly predominantly I would say lesbian, but not political lesbian, more like…oh I don’t know. I know there were people who knew me and had seen me as well but there were other people who just are not in that kind of…they’re sort of in the WNBA kind of…you know what I mean?

AE: Yeah (laughing). Do you watch the WNBA?
KC: Oh, yeah. There’s—you know we have the New York Liberty. It’s really quite amazing…how we’ve created spaces that lesbians go to that are not necessarily political spaces, like WNBA games, Melissa Etheridge shows…When I was coming up—I sound like the oldest living lesbian now—it was really very often about women’s music, and there was a message and it was about community, and it seems more diffuse now and just reaching more and more and larger audiences.

AE: Do you feel like there’s a difference in your performance or in your material when you’re performing for a mostly straight audience versus a gay or lesbian audience?
KC: Here’s the weird thing that I’ve noticed. It was really in the last…very long presidential election, thirty days of an election. I was doing a show at a theater in Palm Beach and it was the height of Florida and they were still counting and screaming. And it was a subscription series, so it was a lot of, you know, New York blue hairs and early-bird special people and lesbians and gay people who came to this show, and I really felt that people were very comfortable during the gay material but got really nervous during the political material.

AE: That’s interesting.
KC: No kidding, I mean I walked away and thought, wow. Because it used to be the exact opposite: you could talk about politics and everybody would, you know, laugh and carry on and then…in a mixed crowd, certainly, if you did gay material you could feel people getting really uptight. But I really feel that in many ways we’ve gone past what Paul Monette used to call homo-ignorance. I mean, people know that there are gay people in the world now.

AE: (laughing) Yeah, they do!
KC: We’d rather not have that be the case, but…(laughing).

AE: Do you think that the discomfort with the political humor was mostly due to the election at that time or have you experienced that since 2000?
KC: I think it was very much their uncertainty about what we were living through and nervousness about that, but I also feel that there is that kind of partisanship that we’re experiencing in general in the country. You know, the red and the blue mentality, but it’s so-called. You know I travel and I’m very often performing in red states, and they’re just—they want to hear it. But I think that is also the function of humor…[in a] great compliment to me somebody came up to me and said, “Well I’m a Republican but I laughed.”

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