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AfterEllen.com:
How
long have you been the Entertainment Editor for Curve
Magazine, and what attracted you to this position?
Diane
Anderson-Minshall: started in mainstream publishing and around 1990
moved into queer publishing—queer newspapers, a weekly television
show in LA, and freelancing for the new queer magazines. I edited
a weekly newspaper in New Orleans and then did some freelancing
for Deneuve Magazine. When my partner and I came out to California
(from New Orleans) it was so I could take an editorial job at On
Our Backs magazine, which at that time was only one of two lesbian
magazines.
It
was also at a point of great turmoil in the mag and after another
particular dispute with the publisher a group of 4 of us—myself,
my partner Susannah, Heather Findlay,
and our art director--left and decided to launch our own magazine,
which was Girlfriends. I edited Girlfriends (and was a minority
owner) until I left at the beginning of 1999.
In
2000, Angelina Malhotra-Singh and I
started Alice Magazine (which was a multicultural women’s
magazine) and we sold it the next year.
Essentially
I started writing for Curve not long after I left Girlfriends. I
became a contributing editor and then near the end of last year
moved into a new position of entertainment editor.
I’m
attracted to the position of entertainment editor because I literally
eat, breath, and sleep lesbian-in-entertainment issues. I’m
feverishly devoted to lesbians in pop culture. I’m obsessed
with lesbian subtext in films from bleak Iranian epics like Two
Women to lesbosploitation schlock like Lord of the G-String.
I watch more TV and movies than anyone I know and I have a particular
disdain for people who can’t just rattle off the names of
every actress on every prime time series that I like.
Also,
I’ve been doing celebrity interviews since the early nineties
and I think I’ve developed a relationship with a lot of publicists
and handlers that can be an asset at a small magazine. Plus I’m
not too bright, so it’s not like I could be out there writing
meaty film diatribes ala Judith Halberstam so I could never—even
if they’d take me—make it in academia. So where else
is a film buff to go?
Are
there common themes (besides the obvious) in the entertainment-related
issues you cover in Curve? What compels you to write about a particular
film/TV show/character/celebrity?
That’s
a good question, actually, because I think I have a wider net than
a lot of lesbian entertainment critics. I feel like I’m looking
at the industry from a lesbian perspective so anything I infer to
be of interest can be of interest to queer female readers. I think
there have been some amazing changes to the film and television
landscape in the last few years that affect spectators even if they
don’t realize it. I know you think lesbian subtext equals
no text, but I disagree. I think of that Bonnie
Raitt video that aired years ago in which several different
couples are dancing. One of the couples was same sex and everyone
got all excited about it.
Viewers
are still affected by lesbian and queer imagery in the background,
the margins, the supporting players and that all helps shift the
landscape a bit to be one that includes us. So I think that I “read”
characters differently and want to relay that to our readers. I
don’t like to make assumptions about character’s identities
on television shows, for example, because just because the fact
that Catherine Willows on CSI, for example, was married
doesn’t mean she hasn’t experienced Sapphic surrender.
And it doesn’t belie the fact that she’s a tough, butch
woman who has never once donned a skirt.
For
a shorter answer though, in terms of film, TV, DVD/VHS, and cable,
I try to cover anything written by or directed by a queer woman,
anything specifically or subtextually about a queer woman or women
(which includes a lot of grrrl power, girl bonding stuff), and anything
somehow featuring a lesbian (usually as an actress). So, I think
that most people see Slumber Party Massacre (written by
Rita Mae Brown in one of her “I
have to pay the bills moments”) and sees a bunch of skinny
white girls getting killed. I—and probably a lot of lesbians—see
subtle messages about heteronormative behavior, girl bonding, and
the impact of patriarchy on social interactions.
So,
I want to look at what it means to have a lesbian star as a virgin
(Fright Night) or having a lesbian direct a reality program
(The Osbornes), a lesbian provide tiny special effects
(Armageddon), or even having a closeted lesbian play a
straight forensics investigator.
Do
you think the recent increase in the number of lesbian/bi women
in film and on television reflects a lasting and/or positive change
in Hollywood, or just exploitation/an attempt to capitalize on the
latest trend?
Both,
probably. Hollywood is a really predictable industry and they go
where the money is. Period. If lesbian representations raise the
ratings and thus ad dollars then they’ll keep playing them
but half the time they have to battle a lot of other forces that
try to keep our images off of the 8 o’clock time slot (the
family hour) so it has to be really worth it. Some networks, too,
are trying to push the card on particular issues (like UPN, for
example, just asked all of it’s showrunners to incorporate
HIV issues into their shows).
But
I do think that in terms of queer imagery on television and film
it’s one step forward, two steps back. I don’t think
we’ll ever not have lesbian images on screen but I do think
that you can have a Sundance darling like But I’m a Cheerleader
come out and surprise everyone, suddenly everyone is abuzz over
the idea of more lesbian films, and yet nobody is actually funding
lesbian features.
This
year’s Sundance, by many accounts, had a dearth of lesbian
features. Lots of lesbians in attendance, far fewer on the screen.
How
do you think the portrayal of queer women in entertainment has changed
over the past several years? What kinds of trends are you seeing
now?
I
think that more and more lesbian writers are involved behind the
scenes and that, especially in television, seems to shape the way
all women are presented in these shows. I also think when women
are behind the scenes they can manage to play a scene that appeals
to both men and women.
It’s
what Teresa DeLaurentis, author of
"Alice Doesn’t Feminism," calls “offering
their heterosexual female audience a ‘safe’ means of
engaging with a lesbian fantasy scenario by offering them at the
same time the possibility of denying this fantasy.”
That
may be but I think it’s a swift move on the part of the writers.
It’s not like you don’t need an overwhelming crush of
viewers to keep a show on the air and if it doesn’t turn off
viewers that Jill Hennessy’s
character on Crossing Jordan is really butch and has anger
management issues and seems to be more attracted to Mariel
Hemingway (who is 40—another good thing on TV) then
her male coworkers, it’s a good thing for the network and
it’s a good thing for dyke viewers.
Overall,
in film, I think the representation of lesbians has become more
authentic but I’m not sure if we’re necessarily out
of the margins yet.
Any
current trends or developments in this area that you’re particularly
excited about?
Most
notably, lesbian filmmakers getting mainstream projects like Cheryl
Dunye (doing My Baby’s Daddy) and Lisa
Cholodenko (with Laurel
Canyon) because I believe that lesbians bring a unique
vision to screen—even in the “obvious” absence
of queer content.
I
think actresses are more willing to play lesbian roles now days.
It used to be that nobody would take a lesbian part—remember
when Cher did Silkwood? Nobody
would take that part. Even with later films, from Desert Hearts
to Bound, the filmmakers did not have ease in casting the
films. There was a lot of inference that these women’s careers
would be over.
Then
in the mid nineties, you could not launch a film with lesbian characters
without the aid of the queer press. Bound,
for example, became a cult hit in large part due to the queer press.
Now, a film like The Hours
can turn away lesbian coverage (which they did), cast some of the
most talented A-listers out there, and get nominated for an Oscar.
So, that’s an evolution in and of itself and though I hate
that the studios can thumb their noses at us (and talk with the
boy mags) I still think it’s a great thing that they can attract
large national audiences. Or that straight audiences can “get”
that Queen Latifah is queer in Chicago.
I
think, though, that the most exciting trend is probably the development
of digital filmmaking—it costs a whole lot less and, face
it, that’s always been the number one problem confronting
female filmmakers. Now instead of schtupping for funding a lot of
filmmakers (like Erin Greenwell, who
did 21) can just get out there and do it. Also, lesbians
are embracing camp a lot more in their work—Nanci
Gaglio’s Pussies, Angela
Robinson’s D.E.B.S.,
Jennifer Arnold’s American
Mullet—and that is a nice development to the cannon of
lesbo cinema.
I
think docu and short work has been, for the last decade, been especially
strong for lesbian filmmakers. I’d like to see distribution
improved for shorts. Diane Nerwen’s
The Great Yiddish Love, for example, is an incredible film
but I don’t think many people have been able to access it.
Film festivals are great but until direct-to-consumer distribution
improves (or lesbian consumers begin to embrace short compilations,
which they haven’t yet) then something like this will just
sit in the archives.
Oh,
another thing, trans imagery—films and docus by, about, for
FTMs—have really increased. I’m not sure whether lesbian
viewers are embracing them (or whether, if they do so, they do it
under the insistence that these are really just butch women). But
it’s a growing cannon nonetheless.
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